Long Tubes

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by CamaroFTW

Yeah and wasted HP...

Dont't understand why you would add LT's and not tune the car to optimize this?

i just dont understand it either ... maybe people just wanna say they have LTS but really i dont give them credit for having them, because the real gain never happen ....

[Hicompression]

Originally Posted by CamaroCowboy

PM Hicompression. He is the only one I know so far that has successfuly put LTs on and not gotten CEL

Yep, 1500 miles and counting. You just have to know what to do.

[Smoky10]

And if you don't mind me asking what did you do that was different than everyone else? Cause I can't afford a tune right now, and I definitely don't want to stop driving my car...

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by jeffa55

Well, I would like to 'buck the trend' as well. As I mentioned in my post, I have gone over 1000 miles thus far with the light coming on 2-3 times, but going back off again within 40-60 miles. It has been off for quite a while now. One thing to mention is that I put a set of brand new O2 sensors in the new exhaust (rather than remove the stock ones and put them into the new exhaust). I have no idea if maybe the new sensors 'learned' differently, but just thought I would throw it out there since it is something that might be slightly different on my car. As I mentioned, I have a complete ARH setup and NO tune

Just because the Light is Out does not mean you Don't have Several Codes, usually P0420 and P0430, some times P1133 and P1153.

Running Long Tubes without a tune is like wearing Running Shoes and sitting down.

Ted.

[Smoky10]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Running Long Tubes without a tune is like wearing Running Shoes and sitting down.

Ted.

Now that's just funny as hell...

[Notneb]

So would it be correct to assume the answer would be: yes, if you tune it, you won't get a CEL?

[MillerTime]

Originally Posted by Notneb

So would it be correct to assume the answer would be: yes, if you tune it, you won't get a CEL?

Correct, as long as you have the pcm ignore the code when you add the tune, you will not have the CEL...

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by Notneb

So would it be correct to assume the answer would be: yes, if you tune it, you won't get a CEL?

Correct, Plus you get all the advantages from the tune, No Torque management, No Skip Shift, Raised Rev limiter, Raised speed limiter, Optimized fuel and timing settings, the ability to return to stock any time, Read and clear codes, Datalogging.

Ted.

[Anthony @ LG Motorsports]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Running Long Tubes without a tune is like wearing Running Shoes and sitting down.

Ted.

Couldn't have said it better myself

[MileMAN402]

Originally Posted by jordan 572

What parts of your warranty can dealers void for headers? Obviously the emissions.

If they are dicks, technically they could void anything relating to the engine if they have valid proof that the headers caused the problem. But business is about who you know, not always what you know....so befriend a dealer

[Riderover40]

Originally Posted by jordan 572

Is there any long tubes that don't make a light on the dash go on? Do the shorty headers also make your light go on? Do all shorty headers bolt onto factory cats?

I happeded to be at the driver/owner end of the abolishment of my CEL's !

Long story made short ........ there is a tune for it so if you are not willing to get a tune because of the BS over warranty .....well ..... just get the tune.

About the warranty . If the mod wasn't the cause of the warrantable issue, the warranty will cover it.

Your responsibility is to get the tune done by a "knowledgeable", "experienced", "skilled" mechanic! I did alot of research and asked alot of questions befoire I did finally get Livernois Motorsports to do my mods! I felt most comfortable when I discovered that levernois Motorsports is a sub of Livernois Engineering. LE does alot of engineering for the big three !! I am sure you can find a shop that will carry the same reputation.

Again.... there is a tune for the systems that displace and replace the Cats and O2 sensors.