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*DGthe3* · 01-27-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Xp0gam3r

I have a question to those whole live in canada! I have a camaro 2LT/RS with the 20" pirelli summer tires, and it seems like the roads have been clear over past 4 - 5 weeks here in eastern ontario. If it snows, it will snow for max of a day leaving approx 1 - 3 cm, and dries off within next 3 days. So my question is, would it be safe to take it out on the days where roads are clear from snow/black ice even with summer tires being on? That is I take it out ONLY on dry road days which seems to be like 4-5 days out of the week!

Thanks

you can take summer tires out in those conditions, but just because you can doesn't mean you should.

homer2004 · 01-27-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Xp0gam3r

I have a question to those whole live in canada! I have a camaro 2LT/RS with the 20" pirelli summer tires, and it seems like the roads have been clear over past 4 - 5 weeks here in eastern ontario. If it snows, it will snow for max of a day leaving approx 1 - 3 cm, and dries off within next 3 days. So my question is, would it be safe to take it out on the days where roads are clear from snow/black ice even with summer tires being on? That is I take it out ONLY on dry road days which seems to be like 4-5 days out of the week!

Thanks

NEVER EVER DIRVE with SUMMMER tires in WINTER. the reason is becuase of something callled black ice.
once you slip , you are done. i am sure you have read the stories in the forum about other members that lost their cars.

you are ok with all season. summer tire would have been ok if it was all wheel drive or even front wheel but rear wheel i dono about that

Xp0gam3r · 01-27-2010, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by homer2004

NEVER EVER DIRVE with SUMMMER tires in WINTER. the reason is becuase of something callled black ice.
once you slip , you are done. i am sure you have read the stories in the forum about other members that lost their cars.

you are ok with all season. summer tire would have been ok if it was all wheel drive or even front wheel but rear wheel i dono about that

Yeah I saw the other stores which were definately scary!

RCLapCar · 01-27-2010, 09:15 PM

Mine is a daily driver so I had not choice about driving it in winter. I looked at it this way before getting the snow tires.

Do I want to cheap out and save $1500 on winter tires and possibly destroy my $40000 brand new car I have been waiting for 4 months for? I went with the tires. It's a personal choice and up to you to decide if the risk is worth it.

Camarodriver · 01-27-2010, 09:17 PM

Just don't do it. It only takes one bad spot of black ice and your done. It's all about traction and summer tires harden up in cold temperatures and lose much of thier grip. I have been driving my 2LT manual all winter and it's just fine with the Toyo Observe thin tires. I bought the slimmest recommended by GM at 225/65 R18" I beleive it was... My summer 245/50 ZR19's have never been driven yet as I took delivery of my car in December 09. The 2010 Camaro with all of it's technology does indeed handle very well in Winter. So much so, that I have not yet had to take our Honda Fit out in bad weather for fear of problems.

It still puts that perma grin on your face....every time you drive it! Winter or not!

eB

Xp0gam3r · 01-27-2010, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCLapCar

Mine is a daily driver so I had not choice about driving it in winter. I looked at it this way before getting the snow tires.

Do I want to cheap out and save $1500 on winter tires and possibly destroy my $40000 brand new car I have been waiting for 4 months for? I went with the tires. It's a personal choice and up to you to decide if the risk is worth it.

Its not cost....It was usability for me. I have an 09 Buick Enclave, its just I miss the camaro, and after reading on some places, someone who had a camaro in the 80s, took it out in winters and within 7 or 8 years it became a rust bucket. So point is I just miss it and was wondering if I was able to take it out on the "good days" only.

Xp0gam3r · 01-27-2010, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camarodriver

Just don't do it. It only takes one bad spot of black ice and your done. It's all about traction and summer tires harden up in cold temperatures and lose much of thier grip. I have been driving my 2LT manual all winter and it's just fine with the Toyo Observe thin tires. I bought the slimmest recommended by GM at 225/65 R18" I beleive it was... My summer 245/50 ZR19's have never been driven yet as I took delivery of my car in December 09. The 2010 Camaro with all of it's technology does indeed handle very well in Winter. So much so, that I have not yet had to take our Honda Fit out in bad weather for fear of problems.

It still puts that perma grin on your face....every time you drive it! Winter or not!

eB

I totally agree! I guess I'll wait till spring

But it may become my daily driving car starting from next year so I'll have to put on some winter tires!

sask-man · 01-28-2010, 02:56 PM

Do yourself a favor, get some rims, and toss on some winter tires or at the least all seasons (which we used to run for decades until someone decided we all must have only WINTER tires) You hit black ice, you hit black ice doesnt matter whats on the rim, your in for a ride! Chances just increase with better suited tires. I think in many case, it's more drivers inexperience of driving a rear wheel drive car, and one with power.

It's just like any tire, they all have various uses, some are speed rated, some are severe ice and some are quiet as could be, some are slicks for drag strips, some are wide and thin for looks, even nascar uses various compounds for various tracks at various altitudes. Just get some better performing tires on for your peace of mind and so you dont hurt yourself or slide into a mini van and injure some kids.

wylde1 · 02-03-2010, 02:14 PM

I used to kinda scoff at winter tires too, and it's true you can drive in the winter with a summer tire just fine if your careful.

This year I put studded nordics on my truck and that thing will climb friggin snowbanks if you want to. I love it, everyone else is spinning at stop signs and I can launch from the line. 'course, it's an s10 w/ a 400 sbc and about 350hp/400tq so it would be similar to driving the camaro I would imagine in the winter, but much lighter.

because I have this though I'll probably never drive the camaro in the winter. I'm lucky and will have 2 very fun vehicles haha

Xp0gam3r · 02-03-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wylde1

I used to kinda scoff at winter tires too, and it's true you can drive in the winter with a summer tire just fine if your careful.

This year I put studded nordics on my truck and that thing will climb friggin snowbanks if you want to. I love it, everyone else is spinning at stop signs and I can launch from the line. 'course, it's an s10 w/ a 400 sbc and about 350hp/400tq so it would be similar to driving the camaro I would imagine in the winter, but much lighter.

because I have this though I'll probably never drive the camaro in the winter. I'm lucky and will have 2 very fun vehicles haha

oh damn! awesome. i think studded tires are illegal here since they can screw up the roads :S

*DGthe3* · 02-03-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Xp0gam3r

oh damn! awesome. i think studded tires are illegal here since they can screw up the roads :S

Yeah, they're mostly allowed only where the roads are commonly hard packed snow in the winter instead of clear pavement.

CanadianCamaro · 02-09-2010, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Yeah, they're mostly allowed only where the roads are commonly hard packed snow in the winter instead of clear pavement.

Studded tires are not legal anywhere in Ontario - maybe nowhere in Canada. Not sure. Same with chains (for Ontario). Of course I don't think you'll be tryin' to put chains on your 'Maro..... ok someone has probably tried this already

Xp0gam3r · 02-10-2010, 08:40 PM

I saw a guy drive in their camaro which had the 20" pirelli's, I believe it was an SS/RS, since its approx between 0C and -8C everyday with completely dry roads (bearly if ANY black ice) since it hasnt snowed for ages right now here. Do the tires really freeze up under 0C? or is it just percussion that they say that and to tell us to buy winter/all season from them

especially on the conditions I just state :( DAMN YOU WINTER!!!!

01-27-2010, 09:15 PM	#18
RCLapCar Drives: 2016 2SS A8 HB/JB Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 505	Mine is a daily driver so I had not choice about driving it in winter. I looked at it this way before getting the snow tires. Do I want to cheap out and save $1500 on winter tires and possibly destroy my $40000 brand new car I have been waiting for 4 months for? I went with the tires. It's a personal choice and up to you to decide if the risk is worth it. __________________ Current: 2016 2SS Hyper Blue/Jet Black Former: 2010 2LT/RS IOM/IO - Solo Catback w/ J-Pipes

01-27-2010, 09:17 PM	#19
Camarodriver Drives: 1975 Camaro, 2010 2LT, 2011/2SSrs Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montreal Posts: 611 View My Garage	Just don't do it. It only takes one bad spot of black ice and your done. It's all about traction and summer tires harden up in cold temperatures and lose much of thier grip. I have been driving my 2LT manual all winter and it's just fine with the Toyo Observe thin tires. I bought the slimmest recommended by GM at 225/65 R18" I beleive it was... My summer 245/50 ZR19's have never been driven yet as I took delivery of my car in December 09. The 2010 Camaro with all of it's technology does indeed handle very well in Winter. So much so, that I have not yet had to take our Honda Fit out in bad weather for fear of problems. It still puts that perma grin on your face....every time you drive it! Winter or not! eB __________________ Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition by the mediocre mind.... Al E 2010 Summit White 2LT Camaro <-(GONE)*New 2011 2SS/RS SW M6 OEM Hurst shifter ordered Oct 7th, 2010 The perma-grin effect pictured above by a good buddy giving me a ride in my Camaro! Used 75 Camaro = $3500 Rolling restoration over 10 years = $5000 $5 of gas burned in 10 seconds = Priceless!

02-03-2010, 02:14 PM	#23
wylde1 I am the Stig Drives: Black w/ IOM stripe 1SS Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CAN Posts: 1,312	I used to kinda scoff at winter tires too, and it's true you can drive in the winter with a summer tire just fine if your careful. This year I put studded nordics on my truck and that thing will climb friggin snowbanks if you want to. I love it, everyone else is spinning at stop signs and I can launch from the line. 'course, it's an s10 w/ a 400 sbc and about 350hp/400tq so it would be similar to driving the camaro I would imagine in the winter, but much lighter. because I have this though I'll probably never drive the camaro in the winter. I'm lucky and will have 2 very fun vehicles haha __________________ 2010 Camaro - 1SS, Black w/ Orange stripes

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sask-man Sask-man from Sask Drives: 2010 1SSRS M6 Black of course! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Saskatchewan Canada Posts: 312 View My Garage	Do yourself a favor, get some rims, and toss on some winter tires or at the least all seasons (which we used to run for decades until someone decided we all must have only WINTER tires) You hit black ice, you hit black ice doesnt matter whats on the rim, your in for a ride! Chances just increase with better suited tires. I think in many case, it's more drivers inexperience of driving a rear wheel drive car, and one with power. It's just like any tire, they all have various uses, some are speed rated, some are severe ice and some are quiet as could be, some are slicks for drag strips, some are wide and thin for looks, even nascar uses various compounds for various tracks at various altitudes. Just get some better performing tires on for your peace of mind and so you dont hurt yourself or slide into a mini van and injure some kids.

02-10-2010, 08:40 PM	#27
Xp0gam3r Drives: '15 2SS 1LE; '10 2LT RS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: North York, ON Posts: 737	I saw a guy drive in their camaro which had the 20" pirelli's, I believe it was an SS/RS, since its approx between 0C and -8C everyday with completely dry roads (bearly if ANY black ice) since it hasnt snowed for ages right now here. Do the tires really freeze up under 0C? or is it just percussion that they say that and to tell us to buy winter/all season from them especially on the conditions I just state :( DAMN YOU WINTER!!!!