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Bluebagger06 · 01-06-2024, 01:18 PM

I was confused as to why you went with TSP over GPI , but i assume their shop is close to you is why?

morepowerjoe · 01-06-2024, 01:19 PM

Yeah it's like a 30 minute drive for me.

Batmanntexas · 01-06-2024, 03:00 PM

Hey Joe, did you ever get the coolant leaking issue resolved? Were the PRC heads the culprit?

-Scott

morepowerjoe · 01-06-2024, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Batmanntexas

Hey Joe, did you ever get the coolant leaking issue resolved? Were the PRC heads the culprit?

-Scott

No TSP said they were doing inventory last week. So the manager told me they will probably get to pressure check the heads on Tuesday next week.

morepowerjoe · 01-08-2024, 09:56 AM

Thanks as always for putting things into perspective Andrew. One thing I have yet to try is the Fast Short Race Runners in the intake manifold. Right now I have the long runners in it. Before when we tried them the first time the cam phaser wasn't working properly and I know it will murder the torque down low but honestly that might be what I need because I can't get any traction to save my life. I'm sure that would get me to 500whp but I don't really know what to expect. I think it might be worth a try?

acutron42 · 01-08-2024, 10:05 AM

I hope you get it nailed down soon & see all your hard work pay off.

morepowerjoe · 01-08-2024, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by acutron42

I hope you get it nailed down soon & see all your hard work pay off.

Me too buddy. Thanks

acammer · 01-08-2024, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by morepowerjoe

Thanks as always for putting things into perspective Andrew. One thing I have yet to try is the Fast Short Race Runners in the intake manifold. Right now I have the long runners in it. Before when we tried them the first time the cam phaser wasn't working properly and I know it will murder the torque down low but honestly that might be what I need because I can't get any traction to save my life. I'm sure that would get me to 500whp but I don't really know what to expect. I think it might be worth a try?

I would expect a mild (5-10)whp gain on the top end, for a substantial sacrifice in power from 2500-6000rpm. I think you'd find the average power would be less, and so that likely makes them a poor choice. They are dramatically shorter, and really would compliment a setup that was looking to peak in the lower 7000s and shift closer to 8000rpm. You have neither the camshaft nor valve-train for that, so I don't see them as a good fit. Fun to try perhaps, but I think you'd be happier with the long runners.

Maybe said another way... my setup is a screamer compared to yours, and I still only have medium length (LS7) runners in mine...

morepowerjoe · 01-08-2024, 12:12 PM

Yeah I think I'll leave well enough alone. Lol

1JEWLDSSRS · 01-08-2024, 04:24 PM

Dang Joe, just checked out your thread, man I'm so sorry you are having all these issues!! That sucks for certain!! All the time and money you put into this build, and your car, you'd think things would be better with it all, not worse. I sure hope you get it all figured out and working properly!! Good luck brother!!

morepowerjoe · 01-08-2024, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 1JEWLDSSRS

Dang Joe, just checked out your thread, man I'm so sorry you are having all these issues!! That sucks for certain!! All the time and money you put into this build, and your car, you'd think things would be better with it all, not worse. I sure hope you get it all figured out and working properly!! Good luck brother!!

Thank you sir.

morepowerjoe · 01-09-2024, 04:51 PM

So I just got off the phone with TSP and they said there are no cracks in the cylinder heads. The guy said they were pressure checked on the runners and the deck but no leaks. He said the only way it could be getting coolant in the cylinders was for a head gasket not sealing because maybe the deck on the engine is warped but I got a $100 machinists straight edge and put it to use today and couldn't even get a .002 feeler gauge in between anywhere on the deck surface The only reason I didn't try a .001 gauge because I don't have one that small. So I'm sure it's within a .001. The only thing I can think of is the arp studs that I've been using are to weak now because I've reused them like 4 or 5 times. So I also sent my stock heads to them for their cnc porting service too. So he said that they will expedite them and get those back to me in about a week. So when I get the stock heads back I will be putting those back on first to see if that solves this gasket sealing problem with new arp studs.

morepowerjoe · 01-09-2024, 06:33 PM

Does anyone know how many times you can reuse arp studs?

Ashen 6.2 · 01-10-2024, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by morepowerjoe

Does anyone know how many times you can reuse arp studs?

I don't think there is a limit for those. I think the only way to really know would be to measure the exposed length at install, then re-check each time before using again. And look for any damage to the stud or threads.

As long as they look good and the nuts work like they should I wouldn't worry about it. thats my $.02 anyways.. lol

01-06-2024, 01:18 PM	#197
Bluebagger06 Drives: 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Illinois Posts: 441	I was confused as to why you went with TSP over GPI , but i assume their shop is close to you is why? __________________ GPI Powered

01-06-2024, 01:19 PM	#198
morepowerjoe Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro l99 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,105	Yeah it's like a 30 minute drive for me. __________________ DSS FX Forged Pistons, Eagle ESP L19 Forged Rods, ARP Head and Main Studs, TSP PRC 260 CNC Ported Heads milled .030, Cometic .040 Head Gaskets, GPI SS3 VVT Camshaft, GM Performance Racing Lifters, CHE Trunnions , Molly Pushrods, Melling 10355HV Oil Pump, Cold Air Inductions CAI, Fast LSXR Intake Manifold, Nick Williams 103 TB, TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes with 3" TSP Exhaust, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Mishimoto Radiator, Mishimoto Oil Cooler, Tru Cool 40k Tranny Cooler, 3600 Circle D Converter, Fluid Dynamics Balancer Build Thread https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609817

01-06-2024, 03:00 PM	#199
Batmanntexas Drives: 2012 Camaro SS (2SS) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 1,374 View My Garage	Hey Joe, did you ever get the coolant leaking issue resolved? Were the PRC heads the culprit? -Scott __________________ 745RWHP/634RWTQ on 93 @ 10psi 806/676 on E85 @ 10psi COTW 9/8/14

01-08-2024, 09:56 AM	#201
morepowerjoe Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro l99 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,105	Thanks as always for putting things into perspective Andrew. One thing I have yet to try is the Fast Short Race Runners in the intake manifold. Right now I have the long runners in it. Before when we tried them the first time the cam phaser wasn't working properly and I know it will murder the torque down low but honestly that might be what I need because I can't get any traction to save my life. I'm sure that would get me to 500whp but I don't really know what to expect. I think it might be worth a try? __________________ DSS FX Forged Pistons, Eagle ESP L19 Forged Rods, ARP Head and Main Studs, TSP PRC 260 CNC Ported Heads milled .030, Cometic .040 Head Gaskets, GPI SS3 VVT Camshaft, GM Performance Racing Lifters, CHE Trunnions , Molly Pushrods, Melling 10355HV Oil Pump, Cold Air Inductions CAI, Fast LSXR Intake Manifold, Nick Williams 103 TB, TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes with 3" TSP Exhaust, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Mishimoto Radiator, Mishimoto Oil Cooler, Tru Cool 40k Tranny Cooler, 3600 Circle D Converter, Fluid Dynamics Balancer Build Thread https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609817

01-08-2024, 10:05 AM	#202
acutron42 Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS AGM Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: WNY Posts: 733	I hope you get it nailed down soon & see all your hard work pay off. __________________ 2013 2SS GPI built & tuned 415, spec'd by Andrew Cammer. GPI ported intake/tb/heads, Tooley springs, CHE trunnions, Callies rotating assembly, Diamond pistons, GPI SS3 VVT, ATI 10% ud damper, Circle D 3800, Kooks ceramic coated lt's with green cats, Mishimoto rad & oil cooler, Derale trans cooler, Holley efi rails.

01-08-2024, 12:12 PM	#205
morepowerjoe Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro l99 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,105	Yeah I think I'll leave well enough alone. Lol __________________ DSS FX Forged Pistons, Eagle ESP L19 Forged Rods, ARP Head and Main Studs, TSP PRC 260 CNC Ported Heads milled .030, Cometic .040 Head Gaskets, GPI SS3 VVT Camshaft, GM Performance Racing Lifters, CHE Trunnions , Molly Pushrods, Melling 10355HV Oil Pump, Cold Air Inductions CAI, Fast LSXR Intake Manifold, Nick Williams 103 TB, TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes with 3" TSP Exhaust, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Mishimoto Radiator, Mishimoto Oil Cooler, Tru Cool 40k Tranny Cooler, 3600 Circle D Converter, Fluid Dynamics Balancer Build Thread https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609817

01-08-2024, 04:24 PM	#206
1JEWLDSSRS Drives: 2011 SS-RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 11,439	Dang Joe, just checked out your thread, man I'm so sorry you are having all these issues!! That sucks for certain!! All the time and money you put into this build, and your car, you'd think things would be better with it all, not worse. I sure hope you get it all figured out and working properly!! Good luck brother!! __________________ TSP STAGE 3 CAM,231/246 @112 LSA 614/641 LIFT, CIRCLE D 5C-4200-4500 CONVERTER,LOD INTAKE.CORSA EXHAUST. DSS 1 PC DS. PEGASUS SOLID CRADLE MOUNTS. 486RWHP/475RWTQ.LOTS MORE.

01-09-2024, 04:51 PM	#208
morepowerjoe Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro l99 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,105	So I just got off the phone with TSP and they said there are no cracks in the cylinder heads. The guy said they were pressure checked on the runners and the deck but no leaks. He said the only way it could be getting coolant in the cylinders was for a head gasket not sealing because maybe the deck on the engine is warped but I got a $100 machinists straight edge and put it to use today and couldn't even get a .002 feeler gauge in between anywhere on the deck surface The only reason I didn't try a .001 gauge because I don't have one that small. So I'm sure it's within a .001. The only thing I can think of is the arp studs that I've been using are to weak now because I've reused them like 4 or 5 times. So I also sent my stock heads to them for their cnc porting service too. So he said that they will expedite them and get those back to me in about a week. So when I get the stock heads back I will be putting those back on first to see if that solves this gasket sealing problem with new arp studs. __________________ DSS FX Forged Pistons, Eagle ESP L19 Forged Rods, ARP Head and Main Studs, TSP PRC 260 CNC Ported Heads milled .030, Cometic .040 Head Gaskets, GPI SS3 VVT Camshaft, GM Performance Racing Lifters, CHE Trunnions , Molly Pushrods, Melling 10355HV Oil Pump, Cold Air Inductions CAI, Fast LSXR Intake Manifold, Nick Williams 103 TB, TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes with 3" TSP Exhaust, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Mishimoto Radiator, Mishimoto Oil Cooler, Tru Cool 40k Tranny Cooler, 3600 Circle D Converter, Fluid Dynamics Balancer Build Thread https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609817

01-09-2024, 06:33 PM	#209
morepowerjoe Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro l99 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,105	Does anyone know how many times you can reuse arp studs? __________________ DSS FX Forged Pistons, Eagle ESP L19 Forged Rods, ARP Head and Main Studs, TSP PRC 260 CNC Ported Heads milled .030, Cometic .040 Head Gaskets, GPI SS3 VVT Camshaft, GM Performance Racing Lifters, CHE Trunnions , Molly Pushrods, Melling 10355HV Oil Pump, Cold Air Inductions CAI, Fast LSXR Intake Manifold, Nick Williams 103 TB, TSP 1 7/8" Longtubes with 3" TSP Exhaust, ZL1 Fuel Pump, Mishimoto Radiator, Mishimoto Oil Cooler, Tru Cool 40k Tranny Cooler, 3600 Circle D Converter, Fluid Dynamics Balancer Build Thread https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=609817