03-27-2011, 01:46 PM | #1 |
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Hp difference in headers upgrade with/without mid pipe upgrade
How much of a loss in hp will I be taking getting new headers without getting an upgrade in the mid-pipe? (not changing to an x-pipe). Just concerned about the worth of getting headers with or without any upgrade behind the headers... Thanks!
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03-27-2011, 01:56 PM | #2 |
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I think you mean cat-back. If you go with long tube headers you'll have no choice but to change your mid-pipe.
There are plenty of people that run the stock cat-back with LT headers. There will be very little to no HP difference in the OEM cat-back vs aftermarket.
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03-27-2011, 02:01 PM | #3 |
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like what caverman said you need to upgrade the mid pipe. by upgrading the factory " cat back" you should gain like 10HP with a good tune.
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03-27-2011, 02:13 PM | #4 |
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Yeah I meant to the cat lol k cuz I got Magnaflow from the axle-back. Just wanted to make sure it was worth getting headers and cat-back, is that the same as headers and hi- flow cats? Or that's just to the cat converter??
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03-27-2011, 02:21 PM | #5 |
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I'm confused because looking at the ARH it shows long tube SHORT system with cats... I thought short system meant not adding the cats into the purchase..?
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03-27-2011, 02:35 PM | #8 |
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And here's the item: http://www.LMPerformance.com/56673/119.html
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03-27-2011, 02:41 PM | #9 |
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this system should come with mid pipes. it says it comes with high flow cats which is mid pipes . they said it connects to your x or h pipes. and you need a mid pipe to do that. and the price is 1300 is that sounds like mid pipes are included.
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03-27-2011, 02:42 PM | #10 |
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Not sure why there's ARH 1 7/8 long tube short system with xpipe and cats AND then ARH 1 7/8 long tube with xpipe and cats...
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03-27-2011, 02:44 PM | #11 |
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K cuz I see the price difference but what's the difference in the product and hp produced
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Quote:
http://www.lgmotorsports.com/catalog...oducts_id=2113 comes with x pipe, mid pipes. in one piece |
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03-27-2011, 02:47 PM | #13 |
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Oh I see! Doesn't show x-pipe lol but what's the hp difference between stock and an x-pipe?
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