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scuba264 · 12-23-2011, 09:48 AM

So I got my inspection done today and got a phone call from the dealer telling me my oil change notification is on. I said I know and that I'd take care of it myself.

He told me to MAKE SURE I use synthetic oil and that its required and that if anything would ever happen to the engine and if they did an oil test and find it not synthetic I would be held responsible.

Now, at this point he wasn't trying to get a sale and was obviously aware that I was doing it myself. So it wasn't some scare tactic or anything so what gives? Did I miss this somewhere? I've seen enough threads about the benefits of synthetic and changing to it so is he just wrong? I've never checked the manual, I'll have to when I go pick her up.

UT-Engineer · 12-23-2011, 09:59 AM

You're fine with a GM approved conventional oil. Only the L99/LS3 require synthetic. The V6s can use syn. and probably is recommended but not required.

pyledrivr · 12-23-2011, 10:16 AM

My dealer told me to use Mobile 1 syn. only....which was fine with me that is all I ever use in all my vehicles

NavyDood · 12-23-2011, 11:37 AM

That would be a big negative and the dealer is only trying to get more money out of you since you have the V6.

PAUL SS · 12-23-2011, 11:39 AM

or a lowlife.

Kvapil28 · 12-23-2011, 12:10 PM

Were they talking about Dexos oil???

Kvapil28 · 12-23-2011, 12:11 PM

If your car is a 2011 is came with Dexos GM's part synthetic blend. 2011's and 2012's

SC2150 · 12-23-2011, 12:13 PM

The conventional oil in the LLT & LFX is what contributes to the timing chain stretch issues. That motor should NEVER have conventional or syn blend. ONLY full syn. Now, I'm just an engine builder and performance parts designer so what do I know.

Marine2011 · 12-23-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by scuba264

So I got my inspection done today and got a phone call from the dealer telling me my oil change notification is on. I said I know and that I'd take care of it myself.

He told me to MAKE SURE I use synthetic oil and that its required and that if anything would ever happen to the engine and if they did an oil test and find it not synthetic I would be held responsible.

Now, at this point he wasn't trying to get a sale and was obviously aware that I was doing it myself. So it wasn't some scare tactic or anything so what gives? Did I miss this somewhere? I've seen enough threads about the benefits of synthetic and changing to it so is he just wrong? I've never checked the manual, I'll have to when I go pick her up.

He probly thought you had a v8...

*The_Blur* · 12-23-2011, 01:16 PM

It is possible that your dealer failed to properly understand what GM wants him to say. It is GM policy to encourage a synthetic blend now. It doesn't have to be full synthetic. The blend is better for engines than conventional oil. Of course, I would recommend Mobil 1, a full synthetic, for long life and performance.

scuba264 · 12-23-2011, 01:19 PM

I don't know what the deal was, he specifically said "you want to make sure you use synthetic, if you use regular crude oil and something happens and they test the oil it will be your engine then".

Like I said, he definitely wasn't trying to do the service at this point, just trying to be helpful. Either he thought it was an SS or is just incorrect.

Brutal SS · 12-23-2011, 01:27 PM

After learning the difference between conventional and synthetic, there is no way I will ever use anything but synthetic. Conventional is truly inferior and therefore obsolete. Settle for nothing less for your Camaro IMHO.

usa1camaro1969 · 12-23-2011, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

The conventional oil in the LLT & LFX is what contributes to the timing chain stretch issues. That motor should NEVER have conventional or syn blend. ONLY full syn. Now, I'm just an engine builder and performance parts designer so what do I know.

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Cadillac says only synthetic in their CTS with the LLT, but Chevy says it's okay to use conventional and put an oil life monitor that says it's okay to go forever on an oil change. Synthetic is not that much more expensive in the 5-qt jugs at Wal-mart, if you're doing it anyway, is it not worth the $10 or so difference for the peace of mind?

Marine2011 · 12-23-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by scuba264

I don't know what the deal was, he specifically said "you want to make sure you use synthetic, if you use regular crude oil and something happens and they test the oil it will be your engine then".

Like I said, he definitely wasn't trying to do the service at this point, just trying to be helpful. Either he thought it was an SS or is just incorrect.

I would bet he thought it was the ss...

12-23-2011, 09:48 AM	#1
scuba264 Drives: Manual 2011 CGM LS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Steeler Country Posts: 570 View My Garage	Told by dealer that I MUST use synthetic oil? So I got my inspection done today and got a phone call from the dealer telling me my oil change notification is on. I said I know and that I'd take care of it myself. He told me to MAKE SURE I use synthetic oil and that its required and that if anything would ever happen to the engine and if they did an oil test and find it not synthetic I would be held responsible. Now, at this point he wasn't trying to get a sale and was obviously aware that I was doing it myself. So it wasn't some scare tactic or anything so what gives? Did I miss this somewhere? I've seen enough threads about the benefits of synthetic and changing to it so is he just wrong? I've never checked the manual, I'll have to when I go pick her up. __________________ My Garage \| Audio Build

12-23-2011, 09:59 AM	#2
UT-Engineer Just Cruisin' Drives: 2010 Synergy Camaro Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,224 View My Garage	You're fine with a GM approved conventional oil. Only the L99/LS3 require synthetic. The V6s can use syn. and probably is recommended but not required. __________________ 2010 Synergy Green Camaro 25% Tint - CGM Painted GM GFX - 20" Niche M102 Wheels

12-23-2011, 10:16 AM	#3
pyledrivr SW Drives: 2011 Camaro Summit White Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 327 View My Garage	My dealer told me to use Mobile 1 syn. only....which was fine with me that is all I ever use in all my vehicles __________________ 2011 Summit White LS pyledrivr@hotmail.com

12-23-2011, 11:37 AM	#4
NavyDood Retired Navy Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NW of DFW Posts: 915	That would be a big negative and the dealer is only trying to get more money out of you since you have the V6. __________________ Retired Navy... A Husband. A Dad. A Veteran as of 2011. 2010 2SS/RS A6 - FlowMaster CatBack - I'm not a Amsoil dealer and will never be one. I believe in its capabilities from personal use with oil analysis reports backing up my OCI's. Besides, I know more than most cut and paste Amsoil dealers which are at least 95% of them.

12-23-2011, 11:39 AM	#5
PAUL SS The Mark of Excellence Drives: 2010 ABM 1SS RS LS3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Smallest State in the Union Posts: 8,690 View My Garage	or a lowlife. __________________ BMR, CAI, DynoMax, Elite Eng., Hurst, Jannetty, Clear Image Headers & Hi Flow cats, Jet Hot, LSR, TSW, VMax, Vredestein

12-23-2011, 12:10 PM	#6
Kvapil28 Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Tahoe LTZ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 453	Were they talking about Dexos oil???

12-23-2011, 12:11 PM	#7
Kvapil28 Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Tahoe LTZ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 453	If your car is a 2011 is came with Dexos GM's part synthetic blend. 2011's and 2012's

12-23-2011, 12:13 PM	#8
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	The conventional oil in the LLT & LFX is what contributes to the timing chain stretch issues. That motor should NEVER have conventional or syn blend. ONLY full syn. Now, I'm just an engine builder and performance parts designer so what do I know.

12-23-2011, 01:16 PM	#10
The_Blur Moderator Drives: 2018 Harley-Davidson Street Bob Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 14,769	It is possible that your dealer failed to properly understand what GM wants him to say. It is GM policy to encourage a synthetic blend now. It doesn't have to be full synthetic. The blend is better for engines than conventional oil. Of course, I would recommend Mobil 1, a full synthetic, for long life and performance. __________________ RDP Motorsport//GEN5DIY//Cultrag Performance//JPSS//Rodgets Chevrolet// Operation Demon//Buy at Invoice//RACECARWEAR RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN. warn 145:159 ban

12-23-2011, 01:19 PM	#11
scuba264 Drives: Manual 2011 CGM LS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Steeler Country Posts: 570 View My Garage	I don't know what the deal was, he specifically said "you want to make sure you use synthetic, if you use regular crude oil and something happens and they test the oil it will be your engine then". Like I said, he definitely wasn't trying to do the service at this point, just trying to be helpful. Either he thought it was an SS or is just incorrect. __________________ My Garage \| Audio Build

12-23-2011, 01:27 PM	#12
Brutal SS Drives: 2019 Camaro 2SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Dinwiddie, Va. Posts: 1,901	After learning the difference between conventional and synthetic, there is no way I will ever use anything but synthetic. Conventional is truly inferior and therefore obsolete. Settle for nothing less for your Camaro IMHO.

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