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RT21 · 02-18-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by djsnoflake

My SS (If GM lasts long enough to make it) Just became more of a collectors item I think.

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Originally Posted by rmyers

On a positive note....may the value of our current hi-po factory cars will be going up sooner then expected. 15 years instead of 30

That would be my take. I would rather have the Camaro keep going, but if not...this will be a bonus for us that got ours.

greenrail · 02-18-2009, 06:21 PM

I am sorry folks, but this one really ticks me off big time. When Washington says the Detroit three should design and build quality vehicles taht are competitive, they then push these folks over the cliff by tacitly forcing them to abandon technology development that would make them competitive with the Europeans and Pacific Rim Manufacturers.

If this is how all this will shake out, this is patenetly a slap in the face of the American consumer.

Am I mad, hell yes!
Not only at the politicians, but also at whom ever in the Corporate Tunnels made a decision like this to cave into such garbage.

What an unmitigated crock of excrement!

Once again the American Consumer gets screwed!!!

It is just like 1972 all over again!

Number 3 · 02-18-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by irpq11

Well I think a few questions can be put to bed for a while.
No Firebird.
No Z28
No transforming Camaro.

Seriously though, I was looking forward to my SAR Camaro (Super Advanced Robot)

irpq11, I think you are right on the first two points, but I swear I saw two Camaro looking robots at the coffee station last week. I recognized the grill.

ssdavidw · 02-18-2009, 06:24 PM

It must be really disappointing for the GM employees from the disbanded engineering division. I'm sure they were people that wanted those jobs because they were car performance enthusiasts and really loved what they did. IMHO, they have done some of their very best work over the past few years and seemed to be really hitting their stride.

To go from working on Corvette's and CTS's and Camaro's to who knows what they'll be doing down the road must be a real let down for them.

Hopefully there will be a time in the future where they can come together again and do what they really love.

GrnMchin · 02-18-2009, 06:24 PM

ponycrusher21 · 02-18-2009, 06:29 PM

that sucks, especially now that toyota is launching the new iforce prius

CWI · 02-18-2009, 06:30 PM

If this is just to be in line with the feds viability, then when GM gets back in the black, all those HP engineers will be back to what they do best.

Tal · 02-18-2009, 07:03 PM

After some time to think about it, this might be a good decision. GM is at a good place with it's performance/SS/V cars and is setup nicely until they are ready to update the Cobalt SS to the Cruze SS. It would be crazy to abandon performance in the long term there is money to be made, but it might be best if for the next year (or two at the most) these people worked on other projects.

Koolwip · 02-18-2009, 07:09 PM

Credit has killed this country - now the SS. Talk about a ripple effect!

*Camaro_Corvette* · 02-18-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Woah Slow down now think this through...
I think it just means there will not be any development of any new High Performance cars, the ones already developed will continue because they have already been engineered.

Robin Lawrence · 02-18-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by headpunter

i wonder what this does the GMPP?

Not a whole lot at this moment. I will hear more as this unfolds.

Robin

t3chfr3ak · 02-18-2009, 07:21 PM

I think this is something that was bound to happen.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 02-18-2009, 07:23 PM

I just thought about this. Man we really cut this down to the wire didn't we. Fbodfather said we were safe 5 months ago when all of this scary stuff started happening. Good call! I don't want to play poker with that man.

Adam · 02-18-2009, 07:30 PM

Ok a few things.

1. It's not 15 years ago, comparisons to cars 15 years ago simply are not valid.

2. Watch your mouth about obama, without him GM would prob have gone under already. Bush and other GOP snobs driving their imports were only too happy to watch GM fail.

3. Things change every single year with cars, I wouldn't be surprised if there's no 2012 SS camaro, if not the 2011 getting scrapped too. But we don't know. No one knows. Anyone pretending to know, is full of it.

02-18-2009, 06:21 PM	#58
greenrail Comic Curmudgeon Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS-2010 VW CC Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 2,395	This is what happens when you let Politics in the Door I am sorry folks, but this one really ticks me off big time. When Washington says the Detroit three should design and build quality vehicles taht are competitive, they then push these folks over the cliff by tacitly forcing them to abandon technology development that would make them competitive with the Europeans and Pacific Rim Manufacturers. If this is how all this will shake out, this is patenetly a slap in the face of the American consumer. Am I mad, hell yes! Not only at the politicians, but also at whom ever in the Corporate Tunnels made a decision like this to cave into such garbage. What an unmitigated crock of excrement! Once again the American Consumer gets screwed!!! It is just like 1972 all over again! __________________ Member Illinois Camaro Club His Name is Rosie - "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick!" - If you know who said that, then you know the genesis of his name.

02-18-2009, 06:24 PM	#60
ssdavidw Camaro OCD Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS, RS, RJT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somerset, NJ Posts: 189 View My Garage	It must be really disappointing for the GM employees from the disbanded engineering division. I'm sure they were people that wanted those jobs because they were car performance enthusiasts and really loved what they did. IMHO, they have done some of their very best work over the past few years and seemed to be really hitting their stride. To go from working on Corvette's and CTS's and Camaro's to who knows what they'll be doing down the road must be a real let down for them. Hopefully there will be a time in the future where they can come together again and do what they really love. __________________ 2010 Camaro - Red Jewel Tintcoat, 2SS, RS, Auto, Black Interior, Cyber Gray Rally Stripes

02-18-2009, 06:29 PM	#62
ponycrusher21 Christopher Fernandez Drives: Toyota Prius Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nashville, Tn Posts: 372	that sucks, especially now that toyota is launching the new iforce prius Attached Images

02-18-2009, 06:30 PM	#63
CWI Helping Build America Drives: 2010 2SS/RS,LS3 2013 Duramax 3500HD Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Freeport LPG Export Posts: 3,839 View My Garage	If this is just to be in line with the feds viability, then when GM gets back in the black, all those HP engineers will be back to what they do best. __________________ Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit, what a ride!"

02-18-2009, 07:09 PM	#65
Koolwip Steve & Stefani Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 262 View My Garage	Credit has killed this country - now the SS. Talk about a ripple effect! __________________

02-18-2009, 06:24 PM	#61
GrnMchin Not easy being Green Drives: 67 Nova SS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,256

02-18-2009, 07:03 PM	#64
Tal Drives: Old Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: OK Posts: 726	After some time to think about it, this might be a good decision. GM is at a good place with it's performance/SS/V cars and is setup nicely until they are ready to update the Cobalt SS to the Cruze SS. It would be crazy to abandon performance in the long term there is money to be made, but it might be best if for the next year (or two at the most) these people worked on other projects.

02-18-2009, 07:21 PM	#68
t3chfr3ak Drives: mazda 6 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: in an igloo in Canada Posts: 223	I think this is something that was bound to happen.

02-18-2009, 07:23 PM	#69
Camaro_Corvette 36.58625, -121.7568 Drives: Team 1LE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 23,709 View My Garage	I just thought about this. Man we really cut this down to the wire didn't we. Fbodfather said we were safe 5 months ago when all of this scary stuff started happening. Good call! I don't want to play poker with that man. __________________ I am seriously never serious vv V vv Next order of business

02-18-2009, 07:30 PM	#70
Adam You Said Member Drives: 2010 SIM 2LT Auto RS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Why is this required? Posts: 326	Ok a few things. 1. It's not 15 years ago, comparisons to cars 15 years ago simply are not valid. 2. Watch your mouth about obama, without him GM would prob have gone under already. Bush and other GOP snobs driving their imports were only too happy to watch GM fail. 3. Things change every single year with cars, I wouldn't be surprised if there's no 2012 SS camaro, if not the 2011 getting scrapped too. But we don't know. No one knows. Anyone pretending to know, is full of it.