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Old 08-22-2015, 09:32 AM   #113
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I answered this very argument in another thread. The current 1LE beats the new Mustang GT Premium with track pack performance wise. The new 6th Gen SS is supposed to be even better than the current 1LE. By a lot. Plus all the added upgrades and expanded standard features. They just don't have an extra package like a track pack be sure frankly, at this point, they don't need it. I'm waiting anxiously to see the performance reports and videos.

So price point wise, they're really not far off.

Here's a video comparing the current 1LE and the new Mustang GT with performance pack
http://youtu.be/rTJPDurLEKw
Performance is not the only thing that sells cars, just look at the 4th gens. They outperformed the Mustangs in every way but didn't sell worth a dang. Sure for the very few enthusiast it's a factor, but 85% of sales are to people who don't care about performance. They want a nice looking sporty car for cheap. The Camaro is almost priced out of the average joes price range. When base V8 is knocking on 40K it's to expensive.




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Equally equipped the Mustang and Camaro will be similar in price. Sure, the Mustang has a lower base price but honestly they're stripped down models. It's a marketing gimmick because very few actually leave the assembly line in that level of trim. Unless, you're planning on ordering good luck finding a stripper model on a lot.

The base Mustang GT comes pretty well equipped. Standard Backup camera, sync, track apps, hids to name a few. Far from stripped. A base GT with track pack, and recaros comes in at the same price as the 1ss base price. Sure the SS may outperform the GT, but like I said above performance really only sells to a small group over all.
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:50 AM   #114
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Performance is not the only thing that sells cars, just look at the 4th gens. They outperformed the Mustangs in every way but didn't sell worth a dang. Sure for the very few enthusiast it's a factor, but 85% of sales are to people who don't care about performance. They want a nice looking sporty car for cheap. The Camaro is almost priced out of the average joes price range. When base V8 is knocking on 40K it's to expensive.







The base Mustang GT comes pretty well equipped. Standard Backup camera, sync, track apps, hids to name a few. Far from stripped. A base GT with track pack, and recaros comes in at the same price as the 1ss base price. Sure the SS may outperform the GT, but like I said above performance really only sells to a small group over all.
This guy gets it. Great point about the 4th gens as well. The gen 6 is too expensive.
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:00 AM   #115
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Old 08-22-2015, 11:31 AM   #116
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Was thinking about...but not at those prices!
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:29 PM   #117
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Performance is not the only thing that sells cars, just look at the 4th gens. They outperformed the Mustangs in every way but didn't sell worth a dang. Sure for the very few enthusiast it's a factor, but 85% of sales are to people who don't care about performance. They want a nice looking sporty car for cheap. The Camaro is almost priced out of the average joes price range. When base V8 is knocking on 40K it's to expensive.

I agree. The vast majority of Camaros sold will never see any track time. Lap times don't matter one iota to the average Joe walking into a dealership. He's going to check out three things - The overall looks of the car, the interior and options included, and the monthly payment. If the car fails in any of the three categories, case closed. He's gonna walk.

I really, really wish that GM would've been a little bolder on the exterior design. It's a beautiful car, but like others have said, it looks too much like a 5th Gen.

For us 5th Gen owners, this should all be great news. Our resale value should hold well. The average guy won't see a huge difference between the cars, and the high prices of the new V8 will have many people checking out the used car lot.
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:36 PM   #118
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Too expensive for me. Still happy I am able to keep my 2011 2SS.
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Old 08-24-2015, 12:27 AM   #119
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Nope just got mine and I like 5th look(outside) better then 6th!
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Old 08-24-2015, 11:44 AM   #120
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I really like the looks of the 6th gen- most especially the interior (I think the interior looks amazing compared to our 5th gens). However, don't see myself upgrading soon- still have a couple years left on my loan anyway, and I know the car will be difficult to get at a decent price for the first year or so anyway (dealer markups, MSRP, scarcity, etc). I would probably upgrade to the 6th gen in the future (maybe a few years down the road), but for now I really love my 5th gen (it was built exactly how I wanted it) and don't mind driving it for a while longer.

I actually like that the 6th gen looks similar to the 5th- I was afraid that they'd stray too much away from the 5th gen design I love. This all being said, I'm awaiting the configurator on Chevy's website so I can build one for fun and compare costs to something generally similar to what I have now. If it's going to be a huge jump for similar equipment, it's not worth it. But if it's marginally more expensive (all cars jump a bit from year to year anyway) then I would consider it when I'm in the market again.
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Old 08-24-2015, 12:43 PM   #121
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Too expensive for me. Still happy I am able to keep my 2011 2SS.

Yep....same here. I won't be getting rid of mine anytime soon.
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Old 08-24-2015, 12:49 PM   #122
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I was until I saw the price for a base 1SS. I will have to sell my SS and then buy!
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Old 08-24-2015, 02:00 PM   #123
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Love the 6th gen looks but the difference isn't so drastic as to get rid of a 5th gen for one. My buddy has a 15 stingray and the lt1 is impressive tho. I actually use the back seat and would hate to lose even more legroom lol. I think any v8 camaro is an instant classic. Trying to convince another buddy to keep his 12 5.0 gt instead of trading on a 15. Only 2 years of payments left I'd be keeping that plus it looks better imo. Didn't buy the camaro too keep up with the joneses. She's staying!
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