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Old 12-20-2010, 09:07 PM   #15
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Driver mean more than those cars. The better driver will win
The same test car driver tested all of these cars, in order to take out that variable if I'm not mistaken. They try multiple runs in order to attain the best 0-60 times, doing it 20-30+ times over and over and over...
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Old 12-20-2010, 10:15 PM   #16
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you all may be missing one vital part of all this. The manual tested mustangs likely had the track pack, or at least the 3.31s. This auto had the 2.73 gears. All V6 Camaros come with 3.27 gearing, so the tall gearing in the stang slowed her down enough to give the Camaro the win....especially approaching 90 - 100mph.
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Old 12-20-2010, 10:25 PM   #17
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What?

...Dude..what grade are you in?

2011 Mustang V6 Auto 0-60: 6.2 seconds
2011 Camaro V6 Auto 0-60: 6.1 Seconds

The 6 is the seconds, decimal point, and the next number is in the tenths position. The Camaro ran to 60 one tenth of a second faster than the V6 Mustang.

Also that article was about the automatics..
Before you insult....check yourself....He was talking about the car vs themselves in manual and auto form. Not vs each other, when he was talking about a full second.
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:58 AM   #18
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Before you insult....check yourself....He was talking about the car vs themselves in manual and auto form. Not vs each other, when he was talking about a full second.


Well if he was doing that, why didn't he post the manual vehicles times? Especially with the title of "camaro out running mustang"
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:51 PM   #19
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Funny how they didn't mention anything about top speed in the M/T article. I know the auto Mustang is speed limited a lot lower than the 2LT with 19" Pirelli tires. I think the old Challenger was speed limited to 130 MPH and I have no idea where the limiter is on the Hyundia. For me I still made the best selection, I'll stick with my Camaro.
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:08 PM   #20
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I guess the OP has a different Chart than the one he posted. I don't see where the camaro is faster than the mustang. They both ran the same time. Plus they used the mustang with the airplane gears in it. Not a fair comparison. I hope the GM guys that complain about Motortrend see this. They tried to get the camaro to win and still couldn't quite do it.
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:08 PM   #21
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I guess the OP has a different Chart than the one he posted. I don't see where the camaro is faster than the mustang. They both ran the same time. Plus they used the mustang with the airplane gears in it. Not a fair comparison. I hope the GM guys that complain about Motortrend see this. They tried to get the camaro to win and still couldn't quite do it.
the acceleration tests show that the camaro is quicker, not by much, but quicker none-the-less. the trap speed of the camaro in the quarter mile is slightly faster, but otherwise they seem pretty equal to me...
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I'd say the fact that the mustang was brand new hurt it more than the gears. It's pretty sad to get that trap speed out of a car that private owners are trapping over 100mph in. Maybe the mustang's auto trans is just super sloppy and slow shifting. Seems like the autos will be a really close race.
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Camaro auto is quicker than Mustang auto.............enough said
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That's a big maybe as far as v6's go considering these two ran exactly the same quarter mile times, there are multiple gear options for the mustang, this being the tallest, and the camaro was broke in. As far as v8 goes, that's the opposite of the truth. Looks like the auto v6 mustang and v6 camaro are pretty much dead even with an advantage to the camaro if the mustang has 2.73's. Of course this is based on one magazine tests. Private owners are getting faster times in both.
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Old 12-21-2010, 07:05 PM   #25
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That's a big maybe as far as v6's go. As far as v8 goes, that's the opposite of the truth.
Are you sure ?? The Mustang GT auto is geared slightly more for fuel efficiency and on normal everyday gas makes 402 horsepower.... plus it weighs a tad more than the manual...I would say Camaro SS with it's huge torque advantage and wider rear tires.... then again could go either way. Plus the same test driver recorded all the times(did 25-30 different 0-100 runs with each car and used the stats from best time) for all of the cars, on the same surface, same temperature, same air pressure, etc. Though the surface they tested on may have been less than optimal.
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Are you sure ?? The Mustang GT auto is geared slightly more for fuel efficiency and on normal everyday gas makes 402 horsepower.... plus it weighs a tad more than the manual...I would say Camaro SS with it's huge torque advantage and wider rear tires.... then again could go either way.
Well multiple people have run sub 12.5s in stock auto 5.0s, as fast as 12.3@115. The fastest l99 IIRC is a 12.8 correct?

As far as "normal every day gas" if you mean 87 octane, the camaro isn't even supposed to run on 87, so I don't know why you would compare the mustang running 87 to the camaro running the recommended 91+.
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Well multiple people have run sub 12.5s in stock auto 5.0s, as fast as 12.3@115. The fastest l99 IIRC is a 12.8 correct?

As far as "normal every day gas" if you mean 87 octane, the camaro isn't even supposed to run on 87, so I don't know why you would compare the mustang running 87 to the camaro running the recommended 91+.
Well I guarantee all those runs are on 93 octane(or 91), with unleaded they lose appx. 3% of overall power(412 vs 402). Plus the Stang GT with the track pack and sticky tires with aggressive gearing do even better, we have seen how much a Mustang can be slower without as aggressive gearing or track pack sticky tires...

91 is not requirerd with the SS.... just trying to make a best case for the Camaro, it is possible it could win, good driver to good driver.
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Well I guarantee all those runs are on 93 octane(or 91), with unleaded they lose appx. 3% of overall power(412 vs 402). Plus the Stang GT with the track pack and sticky tires with aggressive gearing do even better, we have seen how much a Mustang can be slower without as aggressive gearing or track pack sticky tires...

91 is not requirerd with the SS.... just trying to make a best case for the Camaro, it is possible it could win, good driver to good driver.
i believe most of the fastest stock GT's so far have been the weak 3.31 geared ones. And the "track pack sicky tires" are just oem tires very much like the standard camaro tires.

and 93 or 91octane is still unleaded
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