Trading/selling the ZL1 for the new Z/28?

[Front Runner]

Is anyone considering trading/selling their ZL1 to purchase a new Z/28?

I'm not, and have no desire to own the Z/28, but just wondering if someone is.


Sorry if this question is repost.........

[Stephen12ZL1]

nah...I like the split personality of the ZL1. If I wanted a track only (road course) beast, then the Z28 would be my choice. ZL1 is a comfortable cruiser as well as a drag race/track car.

[blessedhellride]

I would, but simply can not afford it.

[Front Runner]

Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

nah...I like the split personality of the ZL1. If I wanted a track only (road course) beast, then the Z28 would be my choice. ZL1 is a comfortable cruiser as well as a drag race/track car.

So do I. It does all things well. Track (road) course, drag strip, comfort, options, convenience, power, fun factor, it has it all. A many trick pony so to speak. Also, it's still the most powerful and fastest Camaro ever built.

Ironically, its the most comfortable and rides extremely well IMO. Very important in my book.

The Z/28 is a purposed built track car. I love it and believe the Camaro team did a fantastic job but its a one trick pony IMO.

I will only track my ZL1 1-3 times a year, otherwise, normal driving, car events, trips and such.

Originally Posted by blessedhellride

I would, but simply can not afford it.

I hear ya, the Z/28 is an awesome ride, hopefully you'll have an opportunity to get one at some point if that's what you desire.

If you don't mind me asking, why? Just wondering....

[lbls1]

I like the z/28 a lot, but in a word...no...I would not trade. It would be pointless for me to consider it.

[GenF-GTS]

Just thinking out loud here, the Z/28 is 3.87 seconds faster around the Nürburgring than the ZL1.

The ZL1 weighs 4120lbs
The Z/28 weighs 3837lbs so it's lighter 283lbs

The ZL1 60-0 stopping distance is 114 feet
The Z/28 60-0 stopping distance is 97 feet

The ZL1 is 580HP
The Z/28 is 505HP

Since the main point of difference here is braking of 17 feet sooner in the Z/28 you could say a brake upgrade to the same standards of the Z/28 in the ZL1 would edge it much closer to that 97 foot range the extra 283lbs may only bump this up to 98-99 feet.

After watching the ZL1 and Z/28 Nürburgring videos i noticed the ZL1 had a much higher top speed than the Z/28 during the straights simply because it has 75 more HP than the Z/28.

I also think that the MRC technology is better than the suspension in the Z/28.....I am not sure why they didn't use MRC in the Z/28 to be honest. (personal opinion)

The ZL1 produces 65lbs of downforce at 150mph
The Z/28 produces 150lbs of downforce at 150mph

This downforce is attributed to the front splitter and some underbelly pan changes, if those changes are made to the ZL1 eg buy the parts when they are available i see no reason why the ZL1 cannot have very similar downforce levels of 150lbs and actually be a faster car due to having more HP.

So in summary;
put the Z/28 brakes on your ZL1, the front splitter and under belly pan and you will probably be faster around a track in a ZL1 than the Z/28.

Thoughts?

[DrkPhx]

I love the new Z/28; especially the looks and exhaust sound (it's my ringer on my phone); but the price is too steep for me. If I could afford it I would first consider a C7 Z51 (love that also) or wait for the new ZO6 (drool) to see what it comes in price wise. I saw all of them at the Detroit Auto Show and pics don't do any of them justice.

[Normagene]

Originally Posted by O.N.

Just thinking out loud here, the Z/28 is 3.87 seconds faster around the Nürburgring than the ZL1.

The ZL1 weighs 4120lbs
The Z/28 weighs 3837lbs so it's lighter 283lbs

The ZL1 60-0 stopping distance is 114 feet
The Z/28 60-0 stopping distance is 97 feet

The ZL1 is 580HP
The Z/28 is 505HP

Since the main point of difference here is braking of 17 feet sooner in the Z/28 you could say a brake upgrade to the same standards of the Z/28 in the ZL1 would edge it much closer to that 97 foot range the extra 283lbs may only bump this up to 98-99 feet.

After watching the ZL1 and Z/28 Nürburgring videos i noticed the ZL1 had a much higher top speed than the Z/28 during the straights simply because it has 75 more HP than the Z/28.

I also think that the MRC technology is better than the suspension in the Z/28.....I am not sure why they didn't use MRC in the Z/28 to be honest. (personal opinion)

The ZL1 produces 65lbs of downforce at 150mph
The Z/28 produces 150lbs of downforce at 150mph

This downforce is attributed to the front splitter and some underbelly pan changes, if those changes are made to the ZL1 eg buy the parts when they are available i see no reason why the ZL1 cannot have very similar downforce levels of 150lbs and actually be a faster car due to having more HP.

So in summary;
put the Z/28 brakes on your ZL1, the front splitter and under belly pan and you will probably be faster around a track in a ZL1 than the Z/28.

Thoughts?

And when you add up the receipts your final tally is probably over the Z/28 price. But you still have all the creature comfort features that the Z/28 does not have. If you add those features to the Z/28 the price tag would skyrocket, jump in weight and lose in performance. Way better hp gains/mods can be had for a ZL1 that will easily make it faster than the Z/28 for less money.

[Stephen12ZL1]

new Z06 with the Z07 package is going to be a beast!

[Normagene]

Originally Posted by DrkPhx

I love the new Z/28; especially the looks and exhaust sound (it's my ringer on my phone); but the price is too steep for me. If I could afford it I would first consider a C7 Z51 (love that also) or wait for the new ZO6 (drool) to see what it comes in price wise. I saw all of them at the Detroit Auto Show and pics don't do any of them justice.

Love the C7 w/Z51 pkg, have all my features on the "wishlist". Just need to hit the lotto! Don't understand why GM announced the HD PDR feature available in the 2015 models. What??? Why would they make such a stupid announcement. Now I may as well weight till September for the 2015??? Z06!!! Thinking base price around $85,000.

[Front Runner]

Originally Posted by Stephen12ZL1

new Z06 with the Z07 package is going to be a beast!

Yes it is!!!!

Anxiously waiting to see how it performs.

[Front Runner]

Originally Posted by O.N.

Just thinking out loud here, the Z/28 is 3.87 seconds faster around the Nürburgring than the ZL1.

The ZL1 weighs 4120lbs
The Z/28 weighs 3837lbs so it's lighter 283lbs

The ZL1 60-0 stopping distance is 114 feet
The Z/28 60-0 stopping distance is 97 feet

The ZL1 is 580HP
The Z/28 is 505HP

Since the main point of difference here is braking of 17 feet sooner in the Z/28 you could say a brake upgrade to the same standards of the Z/28 in the ZL1 would edge it much closer to that 97 foot range the extra 283lbs may only bump this up to 98-99 feet.

After watching the ZL1 and Z/28 Nürburgring videos i noticed the ZL1 had a much higher top speed than the Z/28 during the straights simply because it has 75 more HP than the Z/28.

I also think that the MRC technology is better than the suspension in the Z/28.....I am not sure why they didn't use MRC in the Z/28 to be honest. (personal opinion)

The ZL1 produces 65lbs of downforce at 150mph
The Z/28 produces 150lbs of downforce at 150mph

This downforce is attributed to the front splitter and some underbelly pan changes, if those changes are made to the ZL1 eg buy the parts when they are available i see no reason why the ZL1 cannot have very similar downforce levels of 150lbs and actually be a faster car due to having more HP.

So in summary;
put the Z/28 brakes on your ZL1, the front splitter and under belly pan and you will probably be faster around a track in a ZL1 than the Z/28.

Thoughts?

Great points.

IMO its not worth all of that just to gain 3.87 seconds. Especially concerning the brakes. ZL1 brakes are really good, no, not as good as the CCB's on the Z/28, but no where near as expensive to purchase and/or maintain.

If I were a professional racer, yes, but not for leisure tracking for fun that we do with our cars.

[GenF-GTS]

Originally Posted by Front Runner

Great points.

IMO its not worth all of that just to gain 3.87 seconds. Especially concerning the brakes. ZL1 brakes are really good, no, not as good as the CCB's on the Z/28, but no where near as expensive to purchase and/or maintain.

If I were a professional racer, yes, but not for leisure tracking for fun that we do with our cars.

At the end of the day almost nobody who track races a ZL1 or a Z/28 is going to leave the car stock so be sure to wave at the Z/28 each time you pass him down the straights because we all know how easy it is to make more power out of a ZL1, and when you are cornering just be sure to block him.....thats if he caught up after you smoked him on the straights.

[Whos_Drivin]

IMO, if you gave us all both cars at a track, 95% would see negligible differences in lap times. It wouldn't surprise me if many of us would see better times in the ZL1 due to the higher hp/speed on the straights. Would it be cool to own one, hell yeah. But it would be for the name not the lap times.