BOP th400? Swap questions - Page 2 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

stangkilr · 07-07-2013, 10:09 PM

The bell housing needs no modifications. It will bolt right up. I bought a Gforce 1320 cross member and driveshaft. You will also need to change to a flexplate. I bought a TCI billet one. I know Yank makes a good n/a and nitrous converter. The computer part is tricky, when you get to that point you can message me.

JLE58 · 07-07-2013, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stangkilr

The bell housing needs no modifications. It will bolt right up. I bought a Gforce 1320 cross member and driveshaft. You will also need to change to a flexplate. I bought a TCI billet one. I know Yank makes a good n/a and nitrous converter. The computer part is tricky, when you get to that point you can message me.

It doesn't have a Chevy pattern that's why he was asking..

Bad70supreme · 07-08-2013, 07:50 AM

Ya I found out I can use an adapter plate with my trans, so its all good. The only thing I am conserned about at this point is the longer first gear in the th400. Everyone I have talked to seems to think I will pick up at lest 3-5 tenths, but it still worries me. Most of these swaps are done on cars with allot more power then mine. I am going to call PTC and talk to them about a converter and such.

JLE58 · 07-08-2013, 08:51 AM

PTC is who I use for convertors.

Pro Stock John · 07-08-2013, 09:16 AM

Most TH400's would have a 2.48 first gear, I'm not sure the first gear in a manual 2010 Camaro SS, maybe a 3.xx?

Do you drag race a lot?

Bad70supreme · 07-08-2013, 09:25 AM

I have heard good things, was think 3600-3800 but we will see what they say. My olds was the same wieght as this car, same gearing and have a 2400. It moved out awesome but I had over 500ft lbs at 3000 rpms, so I am really gonna have to depend on the right stall with only a 3.42.

Bad70supreme · 07-08-2013, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

Most TH400's would have a 2.48 first gear, I'm not sure the first gear in a manual 2010 Camaro SS, maybe a 3.xx?

Do you drag race a lot?

I go as much as I can... I don't drive very far in this car, longest trips are to the track! I want this swap for allot of reasons, I don't need 1k axles, a clutch, a gear ect. to run ok at the strip! I also figure with this swap gives me lots of room to grow in the power department down the road. The only down side I see is not being to drive 80-90 mph for extended periods of time, but I don't really do that anyway.

Pro Stock John · 07-08-2013, 11:39 AM

Yeah I was wondering how tough it would be to swap to a factory 6L80E.

Bad70supreme · 07-08-2013, 12:05 PM

Talked to PTC, he said he thinks I should go with a 3200. That's actually allot lower then I wanted, but he said with a 3200 my street ability will be very good with the 3.42. He said a 3600 will feel pretty loose for everyday use. He thinks I would still cut around .3 even with the 3200.

Bad70supreme · 07-08-2013, 12:07 PM

I wonder what it would cost to install a steeper first gear in the 400? Probably not worth the hassle

Pro Stock John · 07-10-2013, 10:10 PM

Good luck whatever you do. How come Jeremy (Syck) hasn't had the same clutch problem as you?

newmoon · 07-12-2013, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

I go as much as I can... I don't drive very far in this car, longest trips are to the track! I want this swap for allot of reasons, I don't need 1k axles, a clutch, a gear ect. to run ok at the strip! I also figure with this swap gives me lots of room to grow in the power department down the road. The only down side I see is not being to drive 80-90 mph for extended periods of time, but I don't really do that anyway.

Bad- this is a great idea, you and I went through similar issues with our combinations. I think the change over to the automatic will instantly drop 4-6 tenths off of your times with repeatable performance. I can't wait to follow along with your build should you decide to move forward.

SUX2BU · 07-12-2013, 11:29 AM

I wouldn't do it. In my 98 SS I went from M6 to A3 and then back to M6. The auto was a little more consistent but boring as hell to race and drive. Also gas mileage was cut in half and highway driving was annoying.

What kind of wheels/tires are you teaching on? Your times are about the same as mine, but I'm a lot heavier (probably 300 lbs) and only have bolt ons so I have a lot less power.

What 60 fts are you getting?

Bad70supreme · 10-18-2013, 10:06 PM

I figured I get this thread going again! My M6 trashed the throw out bearing, after 3 frustrating years at the track with this thing I am finally DONE! The trans has been sold and my th400 is about to go in!

I ordered the chevy to BOP adapter plate, and it looks like it will work out pretty nice. Going to mach up the trans sunday to get the driveshaft ordered and place my order for a converter from FTI! They are building me a LS style converter with the right hub and 3600 stall! I have a B&M gate shifter going in, and using the stick shift boot for a clean look.

I think the car is not only going to run at lest 3 tenths faster, its going to be WAY more fun running good 60fts and I still get to shift the th400!

07-07-2013, 10:09 PM	#15
stangkilr Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 621	The bell housing needs no modifications. It will bolt right up. I bought a Gforce 1320 cross member and driveshaft. You will also need to change to a flexplate. I bought a TCI billet one. I know Yank makes a good n/a and nitrous converter. The computer part is tricky, when you get to that point you can message me. __________________ 2017 ZL1 2014 Corvette 2002 Camaro

07-08-2013, 07:50 AM	#17
Bad70supreme Drives: 2010 aqua blue SS/RS M6 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: plainfield, IL Posts: 2,706	Ya I found out I can use an adapter plate with my trans, so its all good. The only thing I am conserned about at this point is the longer first gear in the th400. Everyone I have talked to seems to think I will pick up at lest 3-5 tenths, but it still worries me. Most of these swaps are done on cars with allot more power then mine. I am going to call PTC and talk to them about a converter and such. __________________ 10.91 at 122 H/C stock block N/A

07-08-2013, 09:16 AM	#19
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	Most TH400's would have a 2.48 first gear, I'm not sure the first gear in a manual 2010 Camaro SS, maybe a 3.xx? Do you drag race a lot? __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

07-08-2013, 09:25 AM	#20
Bad70supreme Drives: 2010 aqua blue SS/RS M6 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: plainfield, IL Posts: 2,706	I have heard good things, was think 3600-3800 but we will see what they say. My olds was the same wieght as this car, same gearing and have a 2400. It moved out awesome but I had over 500ft lbs at 3000 rpms, so I am really gonna have to depend on the right stall with only a 3.42. __________________ 10.91 at 122 H/C stock block N/A

07-08-2013, 11:39 AM	#22
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	Yeah I was wondering how tough it would be to swap to a factory 6L80E. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

07-08-2013, 08:51 AM	#18
JLE58 Drives: CGM,twin turbo, cam 2010 SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: ROCKMART, GA Posts: 2,185	PTC is who I use for convertors.

07-08-2013, 12:05 PM	#23
Bad70supreme Drives: 2010 aqua blue SS/RS M6 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: plainfield, IL Posts: 2,706	Talked to PTC, he said he thinks I should go with a 3200. That's actually allot lower then I wanted, but he said with a 3200 my street ability will be very good with the 3.42. He said a 3600 will feel pretty loose for everyday use. He thinks I would still cut around .3 even with the 3200. __________________ 10.91 at 122 H/C stock block N/A

07-08-2013, 12:07 PM	#24
Bad70supreme Drives: 2010 aqua blue SS/RS M6 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: plainfield, IL Posts: 2,706	I wonder what it would cost to install a steeper first gear in the 400? Probably not worth the hassle __________________ 10.91 at 122 H/C stock block N/A Last edited by Bad70supreme; 07-08-2013 at 12:24 PM.

07-10-2013, 10:10 PM	#25
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	Good luck whatever you do. How come Jeremy (Syck) hasn't had the same clutch problem as you? __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

07-12-2013, 11:29 AM	#27
SUX2BU Quit being a pu$$y Drives: FAST Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sachse TX (DFW) Posts: 5,825 View My Garage	I wouldn't do it. In my 98 SS I went from M6 to A3 and then back to M6. The auto was a little more consistent but boring as hell to race and drive. Also gas mileage was cut in half and highway driving was annoying. What kind of wheels/tires are you teaching on? Your times are about the same as mine, but I'm a lot heavier (probably 300 lbs) and only have bolt ons so I have a lot less power. What 60 fts are you getting? __________________ <----- Click HERE to see ALL of my mods/write ups

10-18-2013, 10:06 PM	#28
Bad70supreme Drives: 2010 aqua blue SS/RS M6 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: plainfield, IL Posts: 2,706	I figured I get this thread going again! My M6 trashed the throw out bearing, after 3 frustrating years at the track with this thing I am finally DONE! The trans has been sold and my th400 is about to go in! I ordered the chevy to BOP adapter plate, and it looks like it will work out pretty nice. Going to mach up the trans sunday to get the driveshaft ordered and place my order for a converter from FTI! They are building me a LS style converter with the right hub and 3600 stall! I have a B&M gate shifter going in, and using the stick shift boot for a clean look. I think the car is not only going to run at lest 3 tenths faster, its going to be WAY more fun running good 60fts and I still get to shift the th400! __________________ 10.91 at 122 H/C stock block N/A