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SWAG1LE · 02-17-2015, 05:33 PM

I've been reading up on the new 2016 GT350's flat-plane cranked 4v 8200 RPM 500+ HP beast engine. I must say it's a nice set up. The 2016 LT1 from Chevy is nice too however, it's a 2v old school set up with only 460 HP at 6200 RPM. Not too shabby either...

I love Chevy don’t get me wrong. Hell I have a built 498 BBC with 150 shot of nitrous pushing 1000 HP in my K5 Blazer. It’s just the new VOODOO engine from Ford is wicked!

Hard decisions coming up this fall for me.

KaBoom1701 · 02-17-2015, 05:38 PM

Welcome to the modern muscle car era!

BrutalSS · 02-17-2015, 06:21 PM

I gotta admit I am a die hard Chevy person (got three of 'em), plus here, Mustangs are like armpits, everyone has one. Not many Camaros around.

Synyster · 02-17-2015, 07:23 PM

Brand loyalty is stupid. The new Mustangs are sweet. However, I'd bet a large sum that the 6th gen SS will wipe floor with the GT and whatever track model that's available will wreck the GT350.

In a lot of ways, Ford is playing catch up as far as trackable cars go. Just as GM has been playing catch up in the HD truck department (it's true, sorry).

BrutalSS · 02-17-2015, 07:41 PM

Brand Loyalty isn't stupid, I truly feel everyone should buy what they like, after all, they are the ones paying for it, not me.

Although I disagree GM is playing catch up on the HD truck market... Ford has had junk diesels for a long time, until the 6.7 came out, and their transmission is nowhere near the quality of the Allison. Dodge has the Cummins, great engine, but their Asin transmission is lacking in the quality department, everyone I know with a Dodge HD Diesel hates the transmission in them. Chevy has the best Combo of both, but, it's all a matter of perception.

rontammy0 · 02-17-2015, 07:48 PM

Brand loyalty is very strong...people that don't get this is very confusing to me.

Quicksilver-SS · 02-17-2015, 08:07 PM

Grew up in a GM family. Brand loyalty runs strong. The only non GM car I ever bought was for my now ex wife. It was a Nissan 240 SX SE back when we were just married in 1992.
It was what she wanted....
However, I will say that if I ever bought outside the GM family, it would be a MOPAR before a Ford.

AzItaliaSS · 02-17-2015, 08:11 PM

you think we are losing some brand loyalists to the challenger and dodge? numbers are almost even now and ford is almost double(new mustang yes I get that) but challenger almost pulling even?

87GNX · 02-17-2015, 08:19 PM

Brand loyalty is very stupid imo...Its like dating one type of girl just because.....when there many hot ones from various cultures. I have owned the big three at one time or another and would do it again.

Iron Lung Jimmy · 02-17-2015, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rontammy0

Brand loyalty is very strong...people that don't get this is very confusing to me.

Brand loyalty is what confuses me.

What are you loyal to, a giant corporation whose sole purpose is to make as much money for its shareholders as possible?

Umm, OK

SSCam99 · 02-17-2015, 09:08 PM

Our society is so fickle today... Brand loyalty can be a positive thing. Yes, GM is a corporation. Corporations are made up of PEOPLE (good and bad) so they are not some evil entity like the media makes them out to be. They have good times and bad times. Is it bad to want to make some money? Don't you get up in the morning to go to work and make money?

If you are loyal to GM (or any corp) you are loyal to those workers and what they've created. You help give them the jobs they have to do more and continue to improve their product and their service. GM has always given my family reliable vehicles and fair service prices. I like the people. So I ask, why NOT be loyal to that...?

I don't think I would have been able to afford my ZL1 if GM hadn't taken into consideration I have been a loyal customer all my life and given me every rebate they could. Maybe the loyalty worked both ways there...

titanfan · 02-17-2015, 09:16 PM

In my family, we have only ever dated and married redheads. I was raised in a red-headed family and consider anyone who is not a redhead inferior. Besides, brunettes are everywhere. You don't see that many redheads walking around.

See how stupid that sounds?! Now replace the hair color used with the brand of your choice. Still no less stupid. IMO, of course.

SSCam99 · 02-17-2015, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ztwentypoop

...anyone who is not a redhead inferior.

Curious, who said anything along those lines? People don't have to like the same things...

And if "redheads" worked for your family I'd say it was a good call to stick to redheads!

Personally I'm sticking to brunettes.

Jsafe17 · 02-17-2015, 10:49 PM

Chevrolet has earned my brand loyalty, most of my family members are not Chevy fans. I'm a fairly big Mopar fan as well but have never personally owned one..

02-17-2015, 05:33 PM	#1
SWAG1LE Drives: 2013 1LE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: West Texas Desert Hell Hole Posts: 394	Brand Loyalty I've been reading up on the new 2016 GT350's flat-plane cranked 4v 8200 RPM 500+ HP beast engine. I must say it's a nice set up. The 2016 LT1 from Chevy is nice too however, it's a 2v old school set up with only 460 HP at 6200 RPM. Not too shabby either... I love Chevy don’t get me wrong. Hell I have a built 498 BBC with 150 shot of nitrous pushing 1000 HP in my K5 Blazer. It’s just the new VOODOO engine from Ford is wicked! Hard decisions coming up this fall for me. __________________ Current: PFADT Drop Springs/ZL1 Rock Guards/SLP Skip Shift Elim./DRAKE Bowtie Delete/ELITE Catch Can/XPEL Clear Film/CORSA ZL1 Cat Back/Z28 CAI

02-17-2015, 05:38 PM	#2
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02-17-2015, 08:11 PM	#8
AzItaliaSS Drives: 2010 2ss RJT LS3 GONE.... Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: GILBERT,ARIZONA Posts: 720	you think we are losing some brand loyalists to the challenger and dodge? numbers are almost even now and ford is almost double(new mustang yes I get that) but challenger almost pulling even? __________________ GONE FAR FAR AWAY......Good bye C5 VARARAM, SWSP 1 7/8 LT'S,X-PIPE,CAT DELETE,DYNOMAX RACE BULLETTS, LSR SHORT SHIFTER ,CUSTOM BLACK EMBLEMS,MPD1 SPOILER, HP TUNE BY GEARHEAD GARAGE, INTERIOR ABL LIGHTING, CUSTOM STRIPING BY BEAVER STRIPES, EIBACHS

02-17-2015, 08:19 PM	#9
87GNX Drives: Alot Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Norcalifas Posts: 1,337	Brand loyalty is very stupid imo...Its like dating one type of girl just because.....when there many hot ones from various cultures. I have owned the big three at one time or another and would do it again. __________________ IF YOU AIN'T FIRST, YOU'RE LAST

02-17-2015, 09:08 PM	#11
SSCam99 Drives: 2019 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 179 View My Garage	Our society is so fickle today... Brand loyalty can be a positive thing. Yes, GM is a corporation. Corporations are made up of PEOPLE (good and bad) so they are not some evil entity like the media makes them out to be. They have good times and bad times. Is it bad to want to make some money? Don't you get up in the morning to go to work and make money? If you are loyal to GM (or any corp) you are loyal to those workers and what they've created. You help give them the jobs they have to do more and continue to improve their product and their service. GM has always given my family reliable vehicles and fair service prices. I like the people. So I ask, why NOT be loyal to that...? I don't think I would have been able to afford my ZL1 if GM hadn't taken into consideration I have been a loyal customer all my life and given me every rebate they could. Maybe the loyalty worked both ways there... __________________

02-17-2015, 06:21 PM	#3
BrutalSS Drives: 2010 Hennessey Camaro Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NY Posts: 242 View My Garage	I gotta admit I am a die hard Chevy person (got three of 'em), plus here, Mustangs are like armpits, everyone has one. Not many Camaros around.

02-17-2015, 07:23 PM	#4
Synyster Drives: 2006 F150 Lariat Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 1,665	Brand loyalty is stupid. The new Mustangs are sweet. However, I'd bet a large sum that the 6th gen SS will wipe floor with the GT and whatever track model that's available will wreck the GT350. In a lot of ways, Ford is playing catch up as far as trackable cars go. Just as GM has been playing catch up in the HD truck department (it's true, sorry).

02-17-2015, 07:41 PM	#5
BrutalSS Drives: 2010 Hennessey Camaro Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NY Posts: 242 View My Garage	Brand Loyalty isn't stupid, I truly feel everyone should buy what they like, after all, they are the ones paying for it, not me. Although I disagree GM is playing catch up on the HD truck market... Ford has had junk diesels for a long time, until the 6.7 came out, and their transmission is nowhere near the quality of the Allison. Dodge has the Cummins, great engine, but their Asin transmission is lacking in the quality department, everyone I know with a Dodge HD Diesel hates the transmission in them. Chevy has the best Combo of both, but, it's all a matter of perception.

02-17-2015, 07:48 PM	#6
rontammy0 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 2SS/ RS INFERNO ORANGE L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Alliston Ontario Canada Posts: 9,057 View My Garage	Brand loyalty is very strong...people that don't get this is very confusing to me.

02-17-2015, 08:07 PM	#7
Quicksilver-SS Drives: 2014 1SS / RS M6 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Zebulon, NC Posts: 602	Grew up in a GM family. Brand loyalty runs strong. The only non GM car I ever bought was for my now ex wife. It was a Nissan 240 SX SE back when we were just married in 1992. It was what she wanted.... However, I will say that if I ever bought outside the GM family, it would be a MOPAR before a Ford.

02-17-2015, 09:16 PM	#12
titanfan Account Suspended Drives: Several in a big garage Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Nashville Posts: 628	In my family, we have only ever dated and married redheads. I was raised in a red-headed family and consider anyone who is not a redhead inferior. Besides, brunettes are everywhere. You don't see that many redheads walking around. See how stupid that sounds?! Now replace the hair color used with the brand of your choice. Still no less stupid. IMO, of course.

02-17-2015, 10:49 PM	#14
Jsafe17 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS 6spd LS3 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon Posts: 581	Chevrolet has earned my brand loyalty, most of my family members are not Chevy fans. I'm a fairly big Mopar fan as well but have never personally owned one.. Last edited by Jsafe17; 02-17-2015 at 11:34 PM.