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jeff657756 · 04-23-2015, 05:38 PM

So I just had my '14 1le tuned on Monday. Right now I have LT headers and Rotofab intake. I put down 417/411 which I was happy with. I am moving on to the next step which will be a cam package. I called cam motion directly first and explained to them what I wanted which is drivability with a noticeable powergain. They spec'd out the following cam for me:

Lift intake = .595". Exhaust = .578".

Duration 214/220.

Lobe separation 116 with intake center line at 112.

Wondering if anyone has got something similar or has any thoughts. Seems pretty mild to me.

rberns · 04-23-2015, 08:04 PM

did they say what the expected power gain would be? does seem small though.

kc ss/rs · 04-23-2015, 08:44 PM

almost the same cam that kip made for me. my car is an l99. i also wanted good driveability and smooth idle. also i did not want to swap out the the factory converter. my specs are 212/220 588/579 116 lobe separation. pulls strong from idle to 6200.

jeff657756 · 04-23-2015, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rberns

did they say what the expected power gain would be? does seem small though.

They said I should see a noticeable gain without being too radical.

jeff657756 · 04-23-2015, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kc ss/rs

almost the same cam that kip made for me. my car is an l99. i also wanted good driveability and smooth idle. also i did not want to swap out the the factory converter. my specs are 212/220 588/570 116 lobe separation. pulls strong from idle to 6200.

What kind of gains did you see? Have a sound clip of it?

kc ss/rs · 04-23-2015, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff657756

What kind of gains did you see? Have a sound clip of it?

car was never on the dyno until the cam was installed. i can send you a sound clip tomorrow. saturday it will be torn down again for a maggie install.

pm me your number or email.

JCunningham · 04-24-2015, 07:49 AM

good choice going with cam motion.that is a mild cam but will do what you are asking.

jeff657756 · 04-28-2015, 08:24 AM

Ended up asking for another spec and I think I like this one a little more.

Lift intake = .595". Exhaust = .578".

Duration at .050" = 222/228.

Lobe separation 115 with intake center line at 111.

atiprocharger · 05-01-2015, 07:43 AM

here is my car after mild cam motions cam install with headers and no cats....i loved it! I have moved on.......see my sig........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=Xhmwa8fNmb0

vroomapunk · 05-01-2015, 09:36 AM

I got a cam motion Night Fury cam from Lethal racing. Its awesome. Makes great power on LS3's.

I have an auto, but driveability is no problem at all. Does have a very lopey idle, but that's one of the things I love about it.

I don't see a point in a small cam, if youre going to do all that work, don't do it for 30 hp or something, you will want more later.

Ask around about night fury driveability, its not bad. Not necessarily for the NF but a similar spec'd cam too with a decent amount of lift.

SSeniorMoment · 05-01-2015, 12:26 PM

OP, here's another 1LE build that's more track oriented, yet very drivable;

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=401078

Given the OP's conservative goals, that grind for the OP appears to be a conservative cam.

After talking with Kip at Cam Motion, I wanted my Camaro to be drivable to take on local drives and long distance trips. But, I also wanted the ability to smoke 392 Hemis and pesky Mustangs.

When it was all said and done, this is the grind he built for me was a 3-bold LLSR cam to match up with the Frankenstein heads;

234/.637" - 244/.620" - 114 +4

After talking with Brian at Circle D, he thought that a triple disc 3600 stall would be appropriate for the 6l80e transmission, more so considering a phase 2 build of a 416 stroker.

I can only stress that the OP spend time with his engine builder and cam grinder in order to have a specific cam ground as part of a total package.

This is a thread in which Kip from Cam Motion writes about his personal ride, there are some top tier builders on these two links;

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364204

vroomapunk · 05-01-2015, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSeniorMoment

OP, here's another 1LE build that's more track oriented, yet very drivable;

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=401078

Given the OP's conservative goals, that grind for the OP appears to be a conservative cam.

After talking with Kip at Cam Motion, I wanted my Camaro to be drivable to take on local drives and long distance trips. But, I also wanted the ability to smoke 392 Hemis and pesky Mustangs.

When it was all said and done, this is the grind he built for me was a 3-bold LLSR cam to match up with the Frankenstein heads;

234/.637" - 244/.620" - 114 +4

After talking with Brian at Circle D, he thought that a triple disc 3600 stall would be appropriate for the 6l80e transmission, more so considering a phase 2 build of a 416 stroker.

I can only stress that the OP spend time with his engine builder and cam grinder in order to have a specific cam ground as part of a total package.

This is a thread in which Kip from Cam Motion writes about his personal ride, there are some top tier builders on these two links;

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364204

+1

jeff657756 · 05-01-2015, 05:42 PM

Thanks for the responses guys. I am stuck between the cam I listed above and a btr stage 2 or 3. I think the stage 2 is a 225/238 .612 .585 Lsa 113+3. Something tells me just get the stage 2 and be done but I don't want to leave anything on the table if I find out that drivability won't be affected too much.

04-23-2015, 05:38 PM	#1
jeff657756 Drives: 2014 SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: United States Posts: 660	Need Cam Advice So I just had my '14 1le tuned on Monday. Right now I have LT headers and Rotofab intake. I put down 417/411 which I was happy with. I am moving on to the next step which will be a cam package. I called cam motion directly first and explained to them what I wanted which is drivability with a noticeable powergain. They spec'd out the following cam for me: Lift intake = .595". Exhaust = .578". Duration 214/220. Lobe separation 116 with intake center line at 112. Wondering if anyone has got something similar or has any thoughts. Seems pretty mild to me. Last edited by jeff657756; 04-23-2015 at 06:00 PM.

04-23-2015, 08:04 PM	#2
rberns Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: US Posts: 3,291 View My Garage	did they say what the expected power gain would be? does seem small though. __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS, Circle D 3200, ADM Transmission Cooler, BTR Valvetrain, Cam Motion .621 .595 228/244 113+4, ARH 1 7/8 full exhaust, Cold Air Inductions, Katech C5R TC, Melling HV, BTR SLR lifters, Trunion Upgrade, LS2 Dampner, LS9 head gaskets, Bo White PTB, MM can, GFX, Subs, B&M Deep transmission pan, Holley fuel rail, Proform valve covers, relocated coil packs

04-23-2015, 08:44 PM	#3
kc ss/rs Drives: 2010 ss/rs Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: kansas city missouri Posts: 247	almost the same cam that kip made for me. my car is an l99. i also wanted good driveability and smooth idle. also i did not want to swap out the the factory converter. my specs are 212/220 588/579 116 lobe separation. pulls strong from idle to 6200. __________________ rotofab cai ported throttle body sp headers with cats loud mouth axle back no mufflers tuned by steve williams 6l80etuning.com bmr split springs cam motion custom camshaft btr 660 spring kit maggie 2300 id850 injectors livernois fuel pump Last edited by kc ss/rs; 04-24-2015 at 09:25 PM.

04-24-2015, 07:49 AM	#7
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,071	good choice going with cam motion.that is a mild cam but will do what you are asking. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

05-01-2015, 07:43 AM	#9
atiprocharger Drives: Black 2018 Camaro ZL1 auto Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 282 View My Garage	here is my car after mild cam motions cam install with headers and no cats....i loved it! I have moved on.......see my sig........ https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=Xhmwa8fNmb0 __________________ 2018 ZL1 A10 with PTB, ROTOFAB, Pulley and tune from Vengeance. 607 rwhp/647 rwtq

04-28-2015, 08:24 AM	#8
jeff657756 Drives: 2014 SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: United States Posts: 660	Ended up asking for another spec and I think I like this one a little more. Lift intake = .595". Exhaust = .578". Duration at .050" = 222/228. Lobe separation 115 with intake center line at 111.

05-01-2015, 12:26 PM	#11
SSeniorMoment Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 A6 IOM Join Date: May 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,190	OP, here's another 1LE build that's more track oriented, yet very drivable; http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=401078 Given the OP's conservative goals, that grind for the OP appears to be a conservative cam. After talking with Kip at Cam Motion, I wanted my Camaro to be drivable to take on local drives and long distance trips. But, I also wanted the ability to smoke 392 Hemis and pesky Mustangs. When it was all said and done, this is the grind he built for me was a 3-bold LLSR cam to match up with the Frankenstein heads; 234/.637" - 244/.620" - 114 +4 After talking with Brian at Circle D, he thought that a triple disc 3600 stall would be appropriate for the 6l80e transmission, more so considering a phase 2 build of a 416 stroker. I can only stress that the OP spend time with his engine builder and cam grinder in order to have a specific cam ground as part of a total package. This is a thread in which Kip from Cam Motion writes about his personal ride, there are some top tier builders on these two links; http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364204

05-01-2015, 05:42 PM	#13
jeff657756 Drives: 2014 SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: United States Posts: 660	Thanks for the responses guys. I am stuck between the cam I listed above and a btr stage 2 or 3. I think the stage 2 is a 225/238 .612 .585 Lsa 113+3. Something tells me just get the stage 2 and be done but I don't want to leave anything on the table if I find out that drivability won't be affected too much.