2019 Refresh - Page 4

unavailablezl1 · 04-10-2018, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by copper3000

They could improve it alot by moving the bowtie up to the grill and painting the center of the nose.

Now that looks waaaaay better. Gotta love PhotoShop

ST1LE · 04-10-2018, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Arugon

That looks awful, I think I dislike the new tail lights even more than the new front end. Atleast the front end is justified by better aero and cooling. These tail lights dont fit the body lines of this car AT ALL and look bug-eyed and bulky.

Compare those to these, I can't comprehend how anyone could think the new lights look nicer....

The current rear end is the weakest link in the design, the characterless rear bumper to be more specific. I am not 100% sold on the new tails themselves, and am waiting to see them in person to formulate an opinion. The new bumper shape is a HUGE improvement, as the existing rear bumper is very boring and needed refreshing from day 1.

Squatch · 04-10-2018, 01:44 PM

the blacked out front looks like the crash bar is exposed, or the front fascia has been taken off.

ST1LE · 04-10-2018, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

Now that looks waaaaay better. Gotta love PhotoShop

+1, that looks GREAT!

396ssrat · 04-10-2018, 01:57 PM

I hear many compliments on the style of the 2016-18 Camaro. Never heard one on the 5th Gen except on this site. My Mopar friends mostly agree that the style of the 16-18 is sweet. I've never been a fan of "bubble Lights" on any car. They would be a deal killer for me but they should raise the value of the current models by a bunch.

Lowflight · 04-10-2018, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 396ssrat

I hear many compliments on the style of the 2016-18 Camaro. Never heard one on the 5th Gen except on this site. My Mopar friends mostly agree that the style of the 16-18 is sweet. I've never been a fan of "bubble Lights" on any car. They would be a deal killer for me but they should raise the value of the current models by a bunch.

I like the flush tail lights of the 5th gen.

lt4camaro · 04-10-2018, 07:04 PM

The refresh is a total disaster, other than the 10 speed in the SS. Very disappointed with Camaro/GM. No wonder there was no fanfare, absolutely nothing to offer.

396ssrat · 04-10-2018, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowflight

I like the flush tail lights of the 5th gen.

You are correct, me too. I don't care for the pre '14 tail lights at all. Cheshire Cat look.

17CamaroZL1 · 04-10-2018, 10:12 PM

I like the current rear bumper. The new rear bumper looks good too, but not necessarily an improvement to me. The tail lights look terrible bugging out like they do, unless they look completely different in person, which is possible, but I doubt it. If they had sunk in those 4 "ovals"?, I think they would've been spot on and something I possibly would've looked at as an upgrade for my 17.

KingLT1 · 04-10-2018, 10:20 PM

Malibu tail lights and a charger front end. They should name it "MUTT".

Fraxum · 04-11-2018, 07:45 AM

You do have to give a refresh time. I originally did not like the '14 5th gen refresh from the back, but after owning a '15 ZL1 I now prefer it. As to the current non-ZL1 refresh give the new back some time. Give the new front I think a decade.

Chevy must show some select owners a preview before committing to the look. I volunteer for the next time! I think I helped finalize the ZL1 name. And I think I helped influence another 1LE decision. (At least in my mind. )

Fraxum · 04-11-2018, 08:15 AM

This center grill repaint from thefirstcause is a big improvment IMO but still not quite right:

But in all black, not as good.

And the flowtie looks better to me in the grill as we have. Maybe Chevy did not want to step on the ZL1s toes.

msawyer110 · 04-11-2018, 08:22 AM

When the 5th gens came out they were so ugly. I specifically did not buy one because how bad they looked. The 16's came out and i loved it. Thought it was maybe the best looking one yet. Now this, everyone can say it takes time to warm up to it but i dont agree. The moment i saw a 5th it was obviously ugly, the 6th was obviously the shit. And now the new one is ugly af again.

Snakedriver · 04-11-2018, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Arugon

That looks awful, I think I dislike the new tail lights even more than the new front end. Atleast the front end is justified by better aero and cooling. These tail lights dont fit the body lines of this car AT ALL and look bug-eyed and bulky.

Compare those to these, I can't comprehend how anyone could think the new lights look nicer....

I agree the tail lights don’t fit.

04-10-2018, 01:44 PM	#45
Squatch Camaro pilot Drives: 69 Camaro, 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Medford OR Posts: 299	the blacked out front looks like the crash bar is exposed, or the front fascia has been taken off. __________________ 2014 ZL1 Camaro 1969 Camaro

04-10-2018, 01:57 PM	#47
396ssrat Drives: 66 Chevelle SS Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,347	I hear many compliments on the style of the 2016-18 Camaro. Never heard one on the 5th Gen except on this site. My Mopar friends mostly agree that the style of the 16-18 is sweet. I've never been a fan of "bubble Lights" on any car. They would be a deal killer for me but they should raise the value of the current models by a bunch. __________________ 66 Chevelle SS 396 91 octane Driver n/a 6.44@105.78 1/8th mile

04-10-2018, 10:12 PM	#51
17CamaroZL1 Life's Short, Live Fast! Drives: 2017 Hyper Blue A10 ZL1 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: London, KY Posts: 2,015	I like the current rear bumper. The new rear bumper looks good too, but not necessarily an improvement to me. The tail lights look terrible bugging out like they do, unless they look completely different in person, which is possible, but I doubt it. If they had sunk in those 4 "ovals"?, I think they would've been spot on and something I possibly would've looked at as an upgrade for my 17. __________________ Life's Short, Live Fast! https://youtu.be/rTUv2p4T7OA 10.94 at 128 mph, 11.13 at 127mph 870 DA, https://youtu.be/e_X_LcpFp50 11.19 at 127mph 1100 DA, https://youtu.be/OXQiCQdQuH4 11.40 at 125mph 1800 DA https://youtu.be/uWba1qs8M6Q 11.52 at 123mph 3500 DA TZQPHG '17 ZL1 HBM\|A10\|Nav\|PDR\|CFW Hood\|ZL1 Mats 12/26/2016 Ordered! 2/8/2017 Built!! 3/2/2017 Brought Home!!!

04-10-2018, 10:20 PM	#52
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,800	Malibu tail lights and a charger front end. They should name it "MUTT". __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

04-11-2018, 07:45 AM	#53
Fraxum Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,520	You do have to give a refresh time. I originally did not like the '14 5th gen refresh from the back, but after owning a '15 ZL1 I now prefer it. As to the current non-ZL1 refresh give the new back some time. Give the new front I think a decade. Chevy must show some select owners a preview before committing to the look. I volunteer for the next time! I think I helped finalize the ZL1 name. And I think I helped influence another 1LE decision. (At least in my mind. ) __________________ "Democracy Dies in Darkness" My LT1 Keeper ..... ..... My Car Blog CarPlayList, a free App to build USB and Android Music drives.

04-10-2018, 07:04 PM	#49
lt4camaro Drives: 2021 LT1 10 speed auto Join Date: May 2013 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,343	The refresh is a total disaster, other than the 10 speed in the SS. Very disappointed with Camaro/GM. No wonder there was no fanfare, absolutely nothing to offer.

04-11-2018, 08:15 AM	#54
Fraxum Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,520	This center grill repaint from thefirstcause is a big improvment IMO but still not quite right: But in all black, not as good. And the flowtie looks better to me in the grill as we have. Maybe Chevy did not want to step on the ZL1s toes. __________________ "Democracy Dies in Darkness" My LT1 Keeper ..... ..... My Car Blog CarPlayList, a free App to build USB and Android Music drives.

04-11-2018, 08:22 AM	#55
msawyer110 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: DFW Posts: 157	When the 5th gens came out they were so ugly. I specifically did not buy one because how bad they looked. The 16's came out and i loved it. Thought it was maybe the best looking one yet. Now this, everyone can say it takes time to warm up to it but i dont agree. The moment i saw a 5th it was obviously ugly, the 6th was obviously the shit. And now the new one is ugly af again. __________________ 2017 ZL1 Hyper Blue Metallic M6 1996 Z28 Polo Green F1-D Procharged 383- 490rwhp

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