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Old 10-12-2011, 11:59 AM   #253
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seriously bro...







Don't worry I'll search the boards for you...
Hey.....

I edited my last post........ jerk......




And the point is made. Smaller sidewall.

Stitch is running 25% sidewall.

Stock height on 305s would be 35%
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Old 10-12-2011, 02:49 PM   #254
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I believe the overall tire/wheel combo had a diameter of about 26.5", but I'd have to check my notes to make sure, and they're kinda far away...

I choose that tire size because it was the closest in overall diameter to the diameter of the Pedders car's tire/wheel combo, that way, I'd know there wouldn't be any clearance issues.

...and it's probably not wise to refer to one of most knowledgeable moderators on here as "jerk". Let's try to keep Pete's threads clean and informative.
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:48 PM   #255
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I believe the overall tire/wheel combo had a diameter of about 26.5", but I'd have to check my notes to make sure, and they're kinda far away...

I choose that tire size because it was the closest in overall diameter to the diameter of the Pedders car's tire/wheel combo, that way, I'd know there wouldn't be any clearance issues.

...and it's probably not wise to refer to one of most knowledgeable moderators on here as "jerk". Let's try to keep Pete's threads clean and informative.
Thanks for the back up Stitch... But PQ and I have history.

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Thanks for the back up Stitch... But PQ and I have history.

Hee hee hee...
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:53 PM   #257
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295/35 20X10 right?
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:06 PM   #258
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I believe the overall tire/wheel combo had a diameter of about 26.5", but I'd have to check my notes to make sure, and they're kinda far away...

I choose that tire size because it was the closest in overall diameter to the diameter of the Pedders car's tire/wheel combo, that way, I'd know there wouldn't be any clearance issues.

...and it's probably not wise to refer to one of most knowledgeable moderators on here as "jerk". Let's try to keep Pete's threads clean and informative.
As far as informative goes, I may have rehashed some things but it did bump the thread and I did learn something and we did learn why you chose the tire sizes you have.

I wondered why you chose such thin sidewalls. Now I know.

Let's extend classtime a little here.......

Pete? I have about the same sidewall as stitch does. Problem for me is (other than needing to lose the donk wheels all together) I have NO traction due to thin sidewalls.

Why are thin sidewalls ok on smaller rims? Why is there not as much traction loss?

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And future in wheel purchase......
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Old 10-13-2011, 04:16 PM   #260
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Let's extend classtime a little here.......

Pete? I have about the same sidewall as stitch does. Problem for me is (other than needing to lose the donk wheels all together) I have NO traction due to thin sidewalls.

Why are thin sidewalls ok on smaller rims? Why is there not as much traction loss?
We choose the tire and wheel size in large part based on the availability of the RE-11 Bridgestones. IMO, they are hands down the best combination of a street / track tire. Weight plays a role as well. The smaller OD worked for us as well effectively creating a rear gear change.

On the new 'Pedders' Camaro we are running 20x10.5 with Michelin 305/35ZR20/XL Pilot Sport PS2s. I poked around looking for an illustration of tire sidewall flex and found this Tire Sidewall Flex Animation Too much tire side wall flex causes instability. Too little side wall flex causes a loss of traction. If the tire can't roll the sidewalls, then the contact patch slips.

What is the perfect tire size? The new ZR1 has Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires P285/30ZR19 in front and P335/25ZR20 in the rear. The rear rim is a 20x12 the front is 19x10. In these low aspect ratios the tire itself is mission critical. For the ZR1 Chevrolet worked with Michelin to create a Pilot Sport with characteristics for optimum performance. In a practical sense, a taller side wall will protect the rims from impact damage i.e. the unexpected major pot hole. On the drag strip tall side walls that wrinkle are desirable.



The Bridgestone Potenza S001 - 305/25R20 that Stich selected carry a dry performance rating of 8 from the MFG. The RE-11s have a MFG dry performance rating of 10. The S001 wet performance rating is a 9 compared the RE-11 with a 7. The Bridgestone S001 is a good choice, unless you are looking to max out a lap time and prove a point. Nitto NT 05s are very good, but are not available in a 305. Selecting the tire size for your Camaro is a balancing act between tire weight, revs per mile, stiction, brakes and RWHP. If you would like to stay between the lines on a rainy day wet performance could be important too Especially with a 305 up front.

If I have my choice, the Bridgestone RE-11 305/19/30s are on my Camaro, unless some dumb-axx rule prohibits their use because they are too good. Then we go to Michelin Pilot Sport PS2.

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So my 22s are not your first choice then. Got it.






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