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litle88 · 12-04-2012, 07:25 PM

What is your goal? Your end game? Are you wanting to run a certain time at the track? Autoxing? Both ? A fast street car? Will you be going FI?

See what we mean? We need more info bud! Lol where in Texas are you?

huitt06 · 12-05-2012, 02:08 AM

My goal is to be quicker overall with more topend and not major loss in torque on the street. Seems as tho when I race from dig or slow roll I do great, but rolling at or above 55 I get taken. Not many tracks here in west Texas...so we make our own on abandoned air base.

huitt06 · 12-05-2012, 02:10 AM

Also planning on staying NA....

Rhino79 · 12-05-2012, 11:09 AM

VVT for sure, when you can basically degree your cam on the fly, thats a win win. My vvt setup makes over 450 rwhp from about 5900 all the way to 7000 rpms. You will just have better average power and a wider power band with vvt. The specifics will depend on your cam choice and what converter you want to run.

VADER SS L99 · 12-05-2012, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by huitt06

Also planning on staying NA....

Probably be wise to go with a VVT cam then for a broad powerband but I wouldnt let just anyone install and tune it. I would be taking a drive to Texas Speed and let them do it since they understand it and make parts for it. I think a converter would help you out with your roll races and you should never try from a roll at 55mph unless you are in manual mode. The trans would have to kick down from overdrive so no wonder you are getting killed. Start from 40mph or use manual mode and start in 2nd or 3rd.

litle88 · 12-05-2012, 08:51 PM

^^^agreed^^^
A good set of cncd heads from AI or WCCH or TEA will get you some powa too.

axis · 12-05-2012, 09:34 PM

You'll need a bigger converter once you cam anyway. You might look into gears as well.

VADER SS L99 · 12-05-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by axis

You'll need a bigger converter once you cam anyway. You might look into gears as well.

Gears would be great but only if those airstrip races stop by about 135mph. 3.70's would be awesome but they tap out in 4th around 135mph. I would agree that a converter is going to be a must. Heads would be awesome as well but OP wants to stay below 5K so unless he does the work himself I dont see heads in the budget. Maybe if he does heads/cam then saves up for converter/gears later he could do it.

axis · 12-05-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

Gears would be great but only if those airstrip races stop by about 135mph. 3.70's would be awesome but they tap out in 4th around 135mph.

But the ride to 135 would be MUCH FASTER.

Wasn't aware they ran out that soon though.

huitt06 · 12-07-2012, 06:35 AM

Texas speed no longer does installs :( ....when I roll I do use manual mode...and probably getting gears next

VADER SS L99 · 12-07-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by huitt06

Texas speed no longer does installs :( ....when I roll I do use manual mode...and probably getting gears next

Really!? Thats crazy. Probably need to ask them who has a handle on the tuning then because I cant think of a shop in TX that does.
Gears and converter do help alot with roll races just be aware that you will tap out at around 135mph with 3.70s and a 3.45 probably wouldnt be worth the hassle. You could use one of the OD gears but I think that would be really hard on the trans. What mph do you guys normally shut it down at?

Lonnie@Texas-Speed · 12-07-2012, 04:01 PM

Yea, unfortunately our technician moves 500 miles across the state last month, so we're sitting ducks looking for a suitable replacement (a tough task considering he was and is the BEST with this platform).

We still handle all the tuning!

BplumCrazy-SS · 12-09-2012, 10:11 PM

check out lethal racing they are in Louisiana so its a road trip but I think they are the best at the VVT tuning down here

kaler · 12-10-2012, 02:53 PM

If you get a TSP VVT cam they provide the cam phaser tables. It is no different tuning it than any LS engine once you have the cam phaser tables. I just hope you find a better LS tuner than I did lol. VVT FTW

12-04-2012, 07:25 PM	#15
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	What is your goal? Your end game? Are you wanting to run a certain time at the track? Autoxing? Both ? A fast street car? Will you be going FI? See what we mean? We need more info bud! Lol where in Texas are you? __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

12-05-2012, 02:08 AM	#16
huitt06 Drives: 2011 L99 SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West texas Posts: 319 View My Garage	My goal is to be quicker overall with more topend and not major loss in torque on the street. Seems as tho when I race from dig or slow roll I do great, but rolling at or above 55 I get taken. Not many tracks here in west Texas...so we make our own on abandoned air base. __________________ TSP 1 7/8, CNT catback, VMAX, CAI intake, ADM scoop, 3.70s, Adm Tuned(374/391), SLP UDP, 18" nurbs/NT05r's , 3200 stall, Granatelli trailing arms....1/4 mi best 12.7

12-05-2012, 02:10 AM	#17
huitt06 Drives: 2011 L99 SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West texas Posts: 319 View My Garage	Also planning on staying NA.... __________________ TSP 1 7/8, CNT catback, VMAX, CAI intake, ADM scoop, 3.70s, Adm Tuned(374/391), SLP UDP, 18" nurbs/NT05r's , 3200 stall, Granatelli trailing arms....1/4 mi best 12.7

12-05-2012, 08:51 PM	#20
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	^^^agreed^^^ A good set of cncd heads from AI or WCCH or TEA will get you some powa too. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

12-05-2012, 09:34 PM	#21
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	You'll need a bigger converter once you cam anyway. You might look into gears as well. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

12-05-2012, 11:09 AM	#18
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	VVT for sure, when you can basically degree your cam on the fly, thats a win win. My vvt setup makes over 450 rwhp from about 5900 all the way to 7000 rpms. You will just have better average power and a wider power band with vvt. The specifics will depend on your cam choice and what converter you want to run.

12-07-2012, 06:35 AM	#24
huitt06 Drives: 2011 L99 SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West texas Posts: 319 View My Garage	Texas speed no longer does installs :( ....when I roll I do use manual mode...and probably getting gears next __________________ TSP 1 7/8, CNT catback, VMAX, CAI intake, ADM scoop, 3.70s, Adm Tuned(374/391), SLP UDP, 18" nurbs/NT05r's , 3200 stall, Granatelli trailing arms....1/4 mi best 12.7

12-07-2012, 04:01 PM	#26
Lonnie@Texas-Speed Drives: 2010 Camaro - BIW Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: TEXAS! Posts: 198	Yea, unfortunately our technician moves 500 miles across the state last month, so we're sitting ducks looking for a suitable replacement (a tough task considering he was and is the BEST with this platform). We still handle all the tuning!

12-09-2012, 10:11 PM	#27
BplumCrazy-SS Drives: 416 w/TH400 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 697	check out lethal racing they are in Louisiana so its a road trip but I think they are the best at the VVT tuning down here

12-10-2012, 02:53 PM	#28
kaler Drives: 2011 Dodge 3500 dually Mega Cab Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: discovery bay,ca Posts: 667	If you get a TSP VVT cam they provide the cam phaser tables. It is no different tuning it than any LS engine once you have the cam phaser tables. I just hope you find a better LS tuner than I did lol. VVT FTW __________________ 2010 SS a6 with TSP VVT-3 cam,PRC ported heads,Yank 3200,Kooks and CAI inc. = +121 RWHP 1/4 mile 12.1 E.T. On P-Zero Tires.