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dr damon · 09-03-2013, 03:30 PM

California car culture for the win !

Yes I'm from California by the way.

EastWood-SS · 09-03-2013, 03:34 PM

can we please just have a real muscle car GM... Not this futuristic space ship crap.

Rodslnger · 09-03-2013, 05:13 PM

I got a statement for the gm customer service rep that makes an appearance here every so often. Ask questions from actual car gurus not like those tools at the end of that video! those are the people that would drive a campbells soup can with wheels as long as they cant text and play music.

Doc · 09-03-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EastWood-SS

can we please just have a real muscle car GM... Not this futuristic space ship crap.

I've been working on that. Putting my design ideas in a thread:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...310821&page=12

SmokiNstripes6913 · 09-03-2013, 06:56 PM

After seeing that video, im glad i have a current gen camaro. IMO the futuristic designs are just falling farther away from the muscle car heritage. Not to mention what factory engine options will be available by 2020...

MikeL · 09-03-2013, 07:30 PM

You know, here is a crazy thought. Maybe.. just maybe... the majority of buyers are NOT car people. Calm down everyone. Those people at the end of the video are your average car buyer.

WE are not your average car buyers. The majority of people cannot tell the difference between a LT/SS/ZL1/Z28 except if it has a giant label on it. Even then they don't know what's inside.

GM designs, along with the majority of the other manufactures, for their target audience, not the niche few of us. While they try to appease everyone they just can't. So they put out a few amazing vehicles like the ZL1 and ZR1 etc to appease us. But the majority of their sales are to people who want something that looks good, drives good, and plays music.

Big A · 09-03-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockhound158

Not buying the "California thing" and it puts a pretty nasty taste in my mouth. There are people designing awesome cars all around the world. General Motors just has to find them and pay them to keep them. Where they work doesn't matter.

You are so right!!

snaphappy · 09-03-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by franknbeans

How about" I want a car with a SOUL. One that you can't walk past without wishing you were out on a canyon road going through the gears."

Amen! That's exactly why I bought my Camaro!

Do you think the new vette has soul? I think it does. It's a very modern soul, but still soul!!!

snaphappy · 09-03-2013, 08:32 PM

Regarding the video, I can't imagine that the Camaro appearance is accidental. I think GM is testing the waters by floating out the new design, in order to see how we react. I think they did the same thing with first Transformers movie. Seems like a brilliant way to accumulate interest and pre-orders.

Unfortunately, I don't think they'll see a very positive reaction to the new Bumble Bee.

Just my thoughts

Sky · 09-03-2013, 08:49 PM

I'm so proud to own a 5th gen! And as my first car to. So happy I didn't go with the Lancer Evo. No offense tuners!

94turbolsx · 09-03-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Eich

Oh how I wish the 2014 rear would have been designed like this. Much better license plate and diffuser area.

They did, kind of. Its the Z/28 rear.

nak3dsnake · 09-03-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 94turbolsx

They did, kind of. Its the Z/28 rear.

Yeah, the z28 is close to whats being sculpted in that clay. the dimensions are different but its still the same basic design elements. It looks more like the original rear bumper modified to look more aggressive. I agree that the license plate recess looks much better, the new one is just set too deep into the bumper. But its a more globaly friendly design than the previous which is what they were going for.

Rogan · 09-04-2013, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Casper954

that rear end looks soooo much better than the 2014!

^ this

abaucom21 · 09-04-2013, 07:06 AM

Hope those people at end of the clip does not represent a Camaro focus group. Wonder how GM currently selects focus groups today?

Think it was back in 1979, I was about 28 yrs. old, lived in Houston and driving a 1976 Eldo conv. bought new. Selected to be a member of a Cadillac focus group of 10-12 people, I was youngest & oldest about mid 50s. We were not all Cadillac owners and think, in part, selected based on incomes and education. Lasted about 2-hrs and issues tended to be about down sizing models, options, driving habits, etc. Had to sign a confidentially agreement as we were shown concept drawings. Very interesting experience.

09-03-2013, 03:30 PM	#15
dr damon Drives: 2011 MANTIS Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Socal Posts: 437	California car culture for the win ! Yes I'm from California by the way. __________________ 2011 PRAYING MANTIS SS WITH CYBER GREY STRIPES

09-03-2013, 03:34 PM	#16
EastWood-SS Born To Run Drives: 2013 BRM SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: . Posts: 474	can we please just have a real muscle car GM... Not this futuristic space ship crap. __________________ Just Lettin' the Night Roll... 2013 Blue Ray Metallic 1SS/RS Dual Mode Exhaust + Fuse Pull / CAI inc. CAI/ 1LE Strut Tower Brace/ ACS T4 Splitter/ SunRoof/ BA Audio/ Performance Shifter/ White Rally Stripes

09-03-2013, 05:13 PM	#17
Rodslnger Drives: camaro Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Uranus Posts: 127	I got a statement for the gm customer service rep that makes an appearance here every so often. Ask questions from actual car gurus not like those tools at the end of that video! those are the people that would drive a campbells soup can with wheels as long as they cant text and play music. __________________ -2000 camaro ss Lsx 427 Tf245 6 bolt Twin turbs. - 2015 C7 zo6 halltec Pulley headers- 2018 Zl1 a10 2650 maggie CSP headers big gulp 103mm

09-03-2013, 08:49 PM	#24
Sky Drives: 2011 Camaro 2LT RSky Edition Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Gainesville Posts: 302 View My Garage	I'm so proud to own a 5th gen! And as my first car to. So happy I didn't go with the Lancer Evo. No offense tuners! __________________

09-03-2013, 06:56 PM	#19
SmokiNstripes6913 Drives: 2013 Camaro 1LS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Lancaster PA Posts: 143 View My Garage	After seeing that video, im glad i have a current gen camaro. IMO the futuristic designs are just falling farther away from the muscle car heritage. Not to mention what factory engine options will be available by 2020...

09-03-2013, 08:32 PM	#23
snaphappy Drives: 2011 Camaro Convertible SS2/RS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Olive Branch, Ms Posts: 742	Regarding the video, I can't imagine that the Camaro appearance is accidental. I think GM is testing the waters by floating out the new design, in order to see how we react. I think they did the same thing with first Transformers movie. Seems like a brilliant way to accumulate interest and pre-orders. Unfortunately, I don't think they'll see a very positive reaction to the new Bumble Bee. Just my thoughts

09-04-2013, 07:06 AM	#28
abaucom21 Drives: 2011 2LT White, 1966 TBird conv. Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ottawa Ontario Posts: 682	Hope those people at end of the clip does not represent a Camaro focus group. Wonder how GM currently selects focus groups today? Think it was back in 1979, I was about 28 yrs. old, lived in Houston and driving a 1976 Eldo conv. bought new. Selected to be a member of a Cadillac focus group of 10-12 people, I was youngest & oldest about mid 50s. We were not all Cadillac owners and think, in part, selected based on incomes and education. Lasted about 2-hrs and issues tended to be about down sizing models, options, driving habits, etc. Had to sign a confidentially agreement as we were shown concept drawings. Very interesting experience.