Am I missing something? [pricing for LFX turbos/supercharger] - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

stoopid · 12-11-2014, 01:03 PM

This past week I've been doing some reading. It seems the cheapest options for a turbo and/or supercharger for the 3.6L LFX are $5,000 plus install/tuning, but most are $6,000+.

I realize there's engineering costs involved in making these. Just seems like a lot. Or is this a case of 'captive audience'?

DSX_Camaro · 12-11-2014, 02:13 PM

Simple supply and demand. Low demand, low supply. High demand, high supply. Cost is inversely proportional, too.

My point is the V6 isn't the SS - less people want boost, so there's less kits, less interests, more costs.

JantzenOKC · 12-11-2014, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DSX_Camaro

Simple supply and demand. Low demand, low supply. High demand, high supply. Cost is inversely proportional, too.

My point is the V6 isn't the SS - less people want boost, so there's less kits, less interests, more costs.

+1

We are a rare breed.

Tmick5jr · 12-11-2014, 03:22 PM

theres no demand if the damn kit is 6k. Drop it down to 3k and i guarantee they would sell a shit load of kits

stoopid · 12-11-2014, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmick5jr

theres no demand if the damn kit is 6k. Drop it down to 3k and i guarantee they would sell a shit load of kits

Pretty much what I was thinking. I'd do it in a heartbeat. $6k plus install/tune is just too much. Like many have said before, just get a SS for that extra cost.

I guess that answers my question - no, I'm not missing anything. :(

GretchenGotGrowl · 12-11-2014, 03:45 PM

My turbos are almost $1,500 each. Yes, I know the ones on the IPS kit aren't that much but they probably have 2 grand or more just in the turbos. Then there's the intercooler, piping, oil and cooling line/fittings and licenses for the tuning software. It adds up quick. I wouldn't put a $3K turbo kit on a 1970s VW Beetle, I sure wouldn't put one on my nearly new 5th gen.

Jason@JacFab · 12-11-2014, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmick5jr

theres no demand if the damn kit is 6k. Drop it down to 3k and i guarantee they would sell a shit load of kits

You couldn't even build a kit like what's being offered for that $$, A new Vortech v3 SCi is like $2300 by itself! A TVS1320, or 1900 head unit is $2000-2500 depending on configuration. Good turbo's are expensive.

However, I do agree the prices are a little excessive. I feel these kits would be an easy sell in the mid to high 4k range, low 5k range...

Gee · 12-11-2014, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason@JacFab

You couldn't even build a kit like what's being offered for that $$, A new Vortech v3 SCi is like $2300 by itself! A TVS1320, or 1900 head unit is $2000-2500 depending on configuration. Good turbo's are expensive.

However, I do agree the prices are a little excessive. I feel these kits would be an easy sell in the mid to high 4k range, low 5k range...

+1

Agreed. I would buy FI in that range two times over without thinking twice.

JantzenOKC · 12-11-2014, 05:16 PM

3K

I'm with Gretchen, I don't want some cheap ebay turbo kit on my brand new car.

69LM1 · 12-11-2014, 08:34 PM

And one would hope that expertise that comes with the install, and the tune that is supposedly vetted.

Even worse than spending 6k on a FI system would be to grenade the motor with a bad tune.

Rich

DSX_Camaro · 12-12-2014, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmick5jr

theres no demand if the damn kit is 6k. Drop it down to 3k and i guarantee they would sell a shit load of kits

It doesn't work that way. Demand causes the product and the supply. Supply determines price. If they have a few kits and they never sell, the price won't change. If a bunch of people started buying them, the price would go down. You can't just magically drop the price - a business has to make profits, or else the business dies and then you don't have a supercharger kit period.

(Side note, I don't know why anyone would get the V6 and then trade it in -lose money- and get an SS which has the power but no gas mileage... why'd you get the V6 in the first place? I got mine to boost it. Lol)

MagnumForceGB · 12-12-2014, 01:16 PM

For Centrifugal Superchargers the bracket that holds the head unit can be expensive itself, has to be custom machined.

Pomp · 12-12-2014, 01:22 PM

It would be interesting to know who would tune the LFX and what would be the power output???

GretchenGotGrowl · 12-12-2014, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pomp

It would be interesting to know who would tune the LFX and what would be the power output???

Lot's of people are tuning the LFX. Power output depends on the mods, but a stock one can pickup ~20+RWHP from just the tune.

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GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	My turbos are almost $1,500 each. Yes, I know the ones on the IPS kit aren't that much but they probably have 2 grand or more just in the turbos. Then there's the intercooler, piping, oil and cooling line/fittings and licenses for the tuning software. It adds up quick. I wouldn't put a $3K turbo kit on a 1970s VW Beetle, I sure wouldn't put one on my nearly new 5th gen. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

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Pomp Drives: 1998 Pontiac Trans Am Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 11	It would be interesting to know who would tune the LFX and what would be the power output??? __________________ President of Toronto F-Body Motorsports Club

12-11-2014, 03:22 PM	#4
Tmick5jr Todd Drives: 2012 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,669 View My Garage	theres no demand if the damn kit is 6k. Drop it down to 3k and i guarantee they would sell a shit load of kits

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JantzenOKC Drives: '13 2LT/RS Twin Turbo Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Edmond, Oklahoma Posts: 3,073	3K I'm with Gretchen, I don't want some cheap ebay turbo kit on my brand new car.

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69LM1 Drives: 2014 Camaro RS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 89	And one would hope that expertise that comes with the install, and the tune that is supposedly vetted. Even worse than spending 6k on a FI system would be to grenade the motor with a bad tune. Rich