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C586 · 10-04-2011, 03:43 PM

Im so done with GM. I had a 2004 express 18 passenger van with only 2 seats for a loaner now I have a 04 alero that rattles and shakes and vibrates like crazy about to fall apart loaner. Customer care pretends to care but they really dont it seems.

Wesman · 10-04-2011, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by C586

I just dropped my 11 off at another dealer last Sunday. They JUST pulled the trans today and gave me a 04 express van for a loaner. With only 2 seats. And said that they WILL NOT fix this issue again for me because it's a v6 not a v8. They say its from abuse and they have never heard if this issue before and neither has GM. I will never own a government motors car ever again in my life and neither will anyone I know.

Thats a load of bullshit and you know it.

They are discrminating againt your car in terms of warranty coverage because its 6 cylinder and not an 8?? Come on, lets be serious.

You can rag GM all you want, its not even their transmission. The trans is a crappy Aisin unit, which is essentially Toyota, and is also used by many other Asian car manufacturers.

Lets see how many pissed of V6 Camaro owners are ignorant enough to go buy a Jap car after seeing what a piece of shit jap transmissions are

C586 · 10-05-2011, 11:35 AM

Ummm my main issue is with gm customer service not caring at all. And the fact that gm chose this transmission. And the fact I have owned many more japanese cars over american cars and guess what. The jap cars are better built last longer are nicer yo drive and just overall better cars. This is my 2nd gm car and my last gm car. I have a older version of this trans in a supra and it takes a ton of abuse. This trans was made cheaper upon a request by gm. What other reason could there be??

C586 · 10-05-2011, 02:01 PM

Well my drivetrain warranty has been voided. They say the damage is from abuse and not a failed part so they wont do any repairs under warranty. What should I do now??

nak3dsnake · 10-05-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by C586

Well my drivetrain warranty has been voided. They say the damage is from abuse and not a failed part so they wont do any repairs under warranty. What should I do now??

Did they disassemble the transmission in order to come to this conclusion?

C586 · 10-05-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nak3dsnake

Did they disassemble the transmission in order to come to this conclusion?

I have no idea. Im going there after work to take pics. I told them no to reassemble a thing til I get there. The SW said the flywheel is blued. That's all I know.

ponbigi · 10-05-2011, 04:23 PM

Burden of proof of the actual abuse is on them get documentation of everything and call a lawyer

C586 · 10-05-2011, 06:36 PM

My clutch and flywheel. I know how to drive stick. This damage and discoloration is from the pedal sticking to the floor and allowing the clutch to slip.

piticu667 · 10-06-2011, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by C586

My clutch and flywheel. I know how to drive stick. This damage and discoloration is from the pedal sticking to the floor and allowing the clutch to slip.

Don't let the win take the car to a forensic mechanic and take them to court.. If you are in the states you have that option and I suggest you use it..

piticu667 · 10-06-2011, 02:22 PM

Any luck??

C586 · 10-06-2011, 02:30 PM

They still have the car apart. The service writers never wrote any clutch issues up on the RO so when the head guy saw the clutch he didn't know there where other issues besides 2nd gear grind. So Idk what is going in now. How could I look up TSBs for my cars clutch system??

Mach · 10-08-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by piticu667

Don't let the win take the car to a forensic mechanic and take them to court.. If you are in the states you have that option and I suggest you use it..

YES!! Do this! If GM fails you. Then take it to another shop. Get a second opinion and go to court.

C586 · 10-08-2011, 03:11 PM

I have had the clutch pedal stick to the floor 16 times since I owned the car. When that happens the clutch slips and this is the result. The dealer said that the only way to cause that damage is from high rpm shifting. Do you guys think I have a chance at a lawsuit??

jeff4946 · 10-08-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by C586

I have had the clutch pedal stick to the floor 16 times since I owned the car. When that happens the clutch slips and this is the result. The dealer said that the only way to cause that damage is from high rpm shifting. Do you guys think I have a chance at a lawsuit??

Only if you have someone to back you up... Like the fourteen thousand people on this thread. Pretty compelling evidence.

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10-04-2011, 03:43 PM	#1373
C586 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NY Posts: 1,117	Im so done with GM. I had a 2004 express 18 passenger van with only 2 seats for a loaner now I have a 04 alero that rattles and shakes and vibrates like crazy about to fall apart loaner. Customer care pretends to care but they really dont it seems.

10-05-2011, 11:35 AM	#1375
C586 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NY Posts: 1,117	Ummm my main issue is with gm customer service not caring at all. And the fact that gm chose this transmission. And the fact I have owned many more japanese cars over american cars and guess what. The jap cars are better built last longer are nicer yo drive and just overall better cars. This is my 2nd gm car and my last gm car. I have a older version of this trans in a supra and it takes a ton of abuse. This trans was made cheaper upon a request by gm. What other reason could there be??

10-05-2011, 02:01 PM	#1376
C586 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NY Posts: 1,117	Well my drivetrain warranty has been voided. They say the damage is from abuse and not a failed part so they wont do any repairs under warranty. What should I do now??

10-05-2011, 04:23 PM	#1379
ponbigi Drives: 2011 CAMARO LS Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 326	Burden of proof of the actual abuse is on them get documentation of everything and call a lawyer

10-05-2011, 06:36 PM	#1380
C586 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NY Posts: 1,117	My clutch and flywheel. I know how to drive stick. This damage and discoloration is from the pedal sticking to the floor and allowing the clutch to slip.

10-06-2011, 02:22 PM	#1382
piticu667 Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Ontario in the commie North Posts: 422	Any luck??

10-06-2011, 02:30 PM	#1383
C586 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NY Posts: 1,117	They still have the car apart. The service writers never wrote any clutch issues up on the RO so when the head guy saw the clutch he didn't know there where other issues besides 2nd gear grind. So Idk what is going in now. How could I look up TSBs for my cars clutch system??

10-08-2011, 03:11 PM	#1385
C586 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NY Posts: 1,117	I have had the clutch pedal stick to the floor 16 times since I owned the car. When that happens the clutch slips and this is the result. The dealer said that the only way to cause that damage is from high rpm shifting. Do you guys think I have a chance at a lawsuit??