Just aiming for 600hp. Heads or just more bottle? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

shiznight · 01-28-2015, 04:04 PM

Well it is that time of the year, modding season and I'm currently sitting at 520hp/585tq with a vvt-1 cam, headers, knn intake, and 100 shot. (set of racestar 17s all around)

ordered are 3.91 gears
circle d 3200 stall

question is, logically it would be cheaper to just toss more bottle on the car with a dedicated fuel system for some added saftey, but would it be less stress to add ported heads and keep the same size pills i'm running now? i'm not concerned with n/a numbers either.

which would you choose? heads or bigger shot? I feel touching 600hp would make my goal obtainable.

i'm aiming for a 10.9x at 12xmph hopefully. any thoughts for confirmation would be greatly accepted.

Js2fst · 01-28-2015, 04:55 PM

Heads should get you near without any nos

flyer08 · 01-29-2015, 05:24 PM

Not going to get anywhere near 600 with the heads, bigger bottle going to give you a lot more hp. Probably get 20-30 with heads depending what you go with

Js2fst · 01-29-2015, 05:26 PM

I can approx 540 -550 rwhp on a dyno jet which is over 600 with a mild cam fi cam but no boost yet.

shiznight · 01-29-2015, 05:41 PM

yeah i'm just going with a 150 and going to hit up rhino for tuning in late feb to dial everything in with the stall. from everything i've been looking at i won't need 600 for 10s

silvio207col · 01-29-2015, 05:44 PM

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=376370

bhillakaiceberg · 01-30-2015, 06:56 AM

Why not get a bigger stall? Like a 3600-3800?

I have Cam (LS3 Conversion)/Heads/Stall/3.91s and do consistent 1.49/1.50 60fts. Best ET as of last season was 11.11 @ 122mph. I will most likely crack 10.99 in a cpl mths after a few small changes. Still Naturally Aspirated tho.

shiznight · 01-30-2015, 08:03 AM

what rpm/gear are you hitting the traps in? and i wanted a 3200ish stall because it will flash some when i leave on bottle. been wanting to pick someone's brain about 3.91's but in an older thread rhino pretty much summed up 3.91 with bottle would be over kill so i'm keeping the 3.27s and going to 26" tall tires bringing me to a 3.50ish gear ratio. but still curious about your rpm in fourth.

Rumbumbees$ponsor · 01-30-2015, 08:30 AM

The best streetable cam with the best headers and a good CAI will get you 495 RWHP, Add LS3 ported Heads on a small bore/Stroke 23 to 27 HP and that's Fly wheel HP. Add a bigger TB and After market intake maybe another 25 hp on a 376 stroke.

Here is an article that may be interesting...

http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/...der-head-swap/

Now this doesn't count for MAST black label there Heads will give you 35 hp..

If you did a Stroker and the heads You would make 600 RWHP !

By far the NOS is the cheapest. Or piece together LSA blower seem to be all over ebay.

FYI..

My friends SS 1LE 2013 with phaft headers, Cold air Ind CAI, and the Night Furry raced a guy with GM LS9 Cam and GM CNC LS3 heads with upgraded valves springs and retainer. He also had nos.

1st race no nos, 1LE all the way wasn't even close
2nd race 75 shot still the 1LE bay a few cars
3rd race 150 shot 1LE barely Lost

I think the 3.73 or manual rear end would be better not the 3.91 for an automatic post around and your see the majority..

I am manual and want to sell mine to auto guy to lesson the blow of a 3.91 for me. Win Win for both if us!

01-28-2015, 04:04 PM	#1
shiznight Drives: 2010 camaro ss l99 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 224	Just aiming for 600hp. Heads or just more bottle? Well it is that time of the year, modding season and I'm currently sitting at 520hp/585tq with a vvt-1 cam, headers, knn intake, and 100 shot. (set of racestar 17s all around) ordered are 3.91 gears circle d 3200 stall question is, logically it would be cheaper to just toss more bottle on the car with a dedicated fuel system for some added saftey, but would it be less stress to add ported heads and keep the same size pills i'm running now? i'm not concerned with n/a numbers either. which would you choose? heads or bigger shot? I feel touching 600hp would make my goal obtainable. i'm aiming for a 10.9x at 12xmph hopefully. any thoughts for confirmation would be greatly accepted. __________________ TSP vvt-1 cam, Headers-catless xpipe, Knn intake 417/422 Nitrous 100 wet shot 520/585 Racestar super 94 17x4.5/17x9.5 highest trap to date 120.6mph 12.0@spinfest. rage

01-29-2015, 05:41 PM	#5
shiznight Drives: 2010 camaro ss l99 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 224	yeah i'm just going with a 150 and going to hit up rhino for tuning in late feb to dial everything in with the stall. from everything i've been looking at i won't need 600 for 10s __________________ TSP vvt-1 cam, Headers-catless xpipe, Knn intake 417/422 Nitrous 100 wet shot 520/585 Racestar super 94 17x4.5/17x9.5 highest trap to date 120.6mph 12.0@spinfest. rage

01-29-2015, 05:44 PM	#6
silvio207col Drives: ROCH-SS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: La porte, tx Posts: 148	check this out! http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=376370

01-30-2015, 06:56 AM	#7
bhillakaiceberg Drives: 2011 2SS/RS & 2017 1SS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,960	Why not get a bigger stall? Like a 3600-3800? I have Cam (LS3 Conversion)/Heads/Stall/3.91s and do consistent 1.49/1.50 60fts. Best ET as of last season was 11.11 @ 122mph. I will most likely crack 10.99 in a cpl mths after a few small changes. Still Naturally Aspirated tho. __________________ *2011 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS/RS L99* (1 of 782) 10.78 @125mph ALL MOTOR SBE Built/Tuned by Me 2017 Chevrolet Camaro 1SS Auto 9.29 @144.57mph ALL MOTOR SBE #TEAMGPI Gwatney Performance Innovation

01-30-2015, 08:03 AM	#8
shiznight Drives: 2010 camaro ss l99 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 224	what rpm/gear are you hitting the traps in? and i wanted a 3200ish stall because it will flash some when i leave on bottle. been wanting to pick someone's brain about 3.91's but in an older thread rhino pretty much summed up 3.91 with bottle would be over kill so i'm keeping the 3.27s and going to 26" tall tires bringing me to a 3.50ish gear ratio. but still curious about your rpm in fourth. __________________ TSP vvt-1 cam, Headers-catless xpipe, Knn intake 417/422 Nitrous 100 wet shot 520/585 Racestar super 94 17x4.5/17x9.5 highest trap to date 120.6mph 12.0@spinfest. rage

01-28-2015, 04:55 PM	#2
Js2fst 2010 transformer Drives: 2010 ss camaro Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Lee's summit mo Posts: 591	Heads should get you near without any nos

01-29-2015, 05:24 PM	#3
flyer08 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 3,418	Not going to get anywhere near 600 with the heads, bigger bottle going to give you a lot more hp. Probably get 20-30 with heads depending what you go with

01-29-2015, 05:26 PM	#4
Js2fst 2010 transformer Drives: 2010 ss camaro Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Lee's summit mo Posts: 591	I can approx 540 -550 rwhp on a dyno jet which is over 600 with a mild cam fi cam but no boost yet.

01-30-2015, 08:30 AM	#9
Rumbumbees$ponsor Drives: Autobot Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: H-Town Posts: 230	The best streetable cam with the best headers and a good CAI will get you 495 RWHP, Add LS3 ported Heads on a small bore/Stroke 23 to 27 HP and that's Fly wheel HP. Add a bigger TB and After market intake maybe another 25 hp on a 376 stroke. Here is an article that may be interesting... http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/...der-head-swap/ Now this doesn't count for MAST black label there Heads will give you 35 hp.. If you did a Stroker and the heads You would make 600 RWHP ! By far the NOS is the cheapest. Or piece together LSA blower seem to be all over ebay. FYI.. My friends SS 1LE 2013 with phaft headers, Cold air Ind CAI, and the Night Furry raced a guy with GM LS9 Cam and GM CNC LS3 heads with upgraded valves springs and retainer. He also had nos. 1st race no nos, 1LE all the way wasn't even close 2nd race 75 shot still the 1LE bay a few cars 3rd race 150 shot 1LE barely Lost I think the 3.73 or manual rear end would be better not the 3.91 for an automatic post around and your see the majority.. I am manual and want to sell mine to auto guy to lesson the blow of a 3.91 for me. Win Win for both if us! __________________