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SSGUNNER · 06-22-2012, 12:26 AM

Tough s**t.

djsnoflake · 06-22-2012, 12:30 AM

...... Looks like neither of you knew your specs, so we'll call it a wash.

two_wheel_mayhem · 06-22-2012, 12:31 AM

I find it humorous the amount of threads like this where people boast that they know more about a car than the people selling them. It's like bragging that you can beat up a girl.

Oh btw, the Camaro is awesome, but it isn't a Corvette in no way shape or form. It's like snap-on vs. craftsman tools, they will both do the job but snap-on is superior in every way.

Dave McFly · 06-22-2012, 12:46 AM

I just had to, sorry

Fiveg56 · 06-22-2012, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by =Stephens=

So I was in this Chevy dealership and they had a Corvette there and it was $68,995. And I asked the salesman what is the horsepower and he brags. "it's 400 hp" and I said, why would someone pay 68K for a vette when they can get an SS with 426hp for like 40K. He then retorts its a vette, and I said for that kind of money I could get a ZL1 for 54K and it is over 600 hp. He then shut up and I could tell he didn't know his specs and was not happy with me and walked away. Just had to share this with you all.

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Originally Posted by =Stephens=

Since I don't own a ZL1 I was guesstimating it. My bad.

Um...

Fiveg56 · 06-22-2012, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by =Stephens=

So I was in this Chevy dealership and they had a Corvette there and it was $68,995. And I asked the salesman what is the horsepower and he brags. "it's 400 hp" and I said, why would someone pay 68K for a vette when they can get an SS with 426hp for like 40K. He then retorts its a vette, and I said for that kind of money I could get a ZL1 for 54K and it is over 600 hp. He then shut up and I could tell he didn't know his specs and was not happy with me and walked away. Just had to share this with you all.

Maybe because, in a sports car sense, the Corvette is superior in almost every way? Just a thought.

B-Rex · 06-22-2012, 12:57 AM

early one morning last week i wandered around the dealership i bought my car from looking for someone to ask questions about the electric power steering, what parts were involved and all that. i had to convince two dealers that the '13s come with electric power steering, but thankfully the tool troll they hooked me up with in the service department knew a little bit more than they did.

also stephens isnt a 'vette dealer, or a ZL1 dealer so I wouldn't expect him to know everything about them, but I'd expect (well more like hope nowadays) that a dealer would know.

papabearcamaro · 06-22-2012, 02:40 AM

If your going to try to make yourself look superior to a car salesman and than come brag about it on the internet,you should atleast know the correct data you are spewing.
A ZL1 is not over 600HP.

SnowVert · 06-22-2012, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiveg56

Maybe because, in a sports car sense, the Corvette is superior in almost every way? Just a thought.

+1

SnowVert · 06-22-2012, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by =Stephens=

So I was in this Chevy dealership and they had a Corvette there and it was $68,995. And I asked the salesman what is the horsepower and he brags. "it's 400 hp" and I said, why would someone pay 68K for a vette when they can get an SS with 426hp for like 40K. He then retorts its a vette, and I said for that kind of money I could get a ZL1 for 54K and it is over 600 hp. He then shut up and I could tell he didn't know his specs and was not happy with me and walked away. Just had to share this with you all.

I question this as well, a new base model corvette starts at $49,600. And runs 0-60 in about 4.3... Maybe it's a question of the dealer raising the bar a bit?

pincoin · 06-22-2012, 04:00 AM

Neat story!

ChrisBlair · 06-22-2012, 04:58 AM

It's easy to beat up on salesmen; some are guys who really don't have the right personality. Some do. But it's uncool to just smack them down, they are trying to do a job and while it's a job most people look down on for some reason, that's no way to treat somebody.

For example, when I was talking about trading in my '07 Sol GXP, I was told 'well, you see, they don't make them anymore and Pontiac is gone...' as in 'well here's why we'll low-ball you.'

All you have to do is be prepared. I asked him what would happen if I was trading in a 2005 Corvette. He asked me why I asked that. I told him "Well you see, GM doesn't make 2005 Corvettes anymore either, so what's your point about my Pontiac? It's a GM vehicle just like the Corvette and GM is still in business. The parts books are in your service bay"

We weren't confrontational or angry about it. It's a game.

sainthinds · 06-22-2012, 05:05 AM

Yeah the vette is 430 hp zl1 is 560 I think. Its no comparison I have a c5 with 350 hp ls1 the vette is faster than my ss camaro. So yeah vettes are lighter,geared differently I'm pretty sure the z06 or zr1 will smack the zl1 camaro. The base model vette I think is a tad slower than zl1.

ChrisBlair · 06-22-2012, 05:18 AM

Yes, the '12 Vette is just over 3200 lbs while the Camaro pushes 4,000; the LS3 is not a standout torque engine either. It's adequate but for the weight it has to move the Camaro would enjoy 50-60 more lb/ft from the factory

06-22-2012, 12:26 AM	#15
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06-22-2012, 12:46 AM	#18
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06-22-2012, 12:57 AM	#21
B-Rex Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 465 View My Garage	early one morning last week i wandered around the dealership i bought my car from looking for someone to ask questions about the electric power steering, what parts were involved and all that. i had to convince two dealers that the '13s come with electric power steering, but thankfully the tool troll they hooked me up with in the service department knew a little bit more than they did. also stephens isnt a 'vette dealer, or a ZL1 dealer so I wouldn't expect him to know everything about them, but I'd expect (well more like hope nowadays) that a dealer would know. __________________ B-Rex 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Hurst, LG, C.A.I., Flowmaster, Pfadt, Pedders, U.S. Gear/Axle Tech, LPW, SJM, Nitto, Nitrous Outlet, ZEX

06-22-2012, 02:40 AM	#22
papabearcamaro Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 4x4 Z71 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: WI. Posts: 1,744	If your going to try to make yourself look superior to a car salesman and than come brag about it on the internet,you should atleast know the correct data you are spewing. A ZL1 is not over 600HP. __________________ SOLD(Traded for 2012 Silverado Z71 4x4 and 2012 Sonic Hatch.)...2010 Camaro 1SS/RS/LS3,yellow with House of Kolor Tangerine Pearl rally stripes,manual trans.Hurst short throw shifter,4 pack rally gauges,Roto-Fab air intake,Kooks long tube headers with high-flow cats,Borla S-Type catback exhaust,Comp Cam,PRC ported heads,Maggie with 3.6 pulley and 1:1 cog drive,secondary fuel system with 65lb injectors,ADM digital A/F and Boost gauge,Pfadt trailing arms and subframe bushings.614.25rwhp/566.82rwtq on 8# of boost. 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 EX.Cab 4X4 Z71.

06-22-2012, 04:00 AM	#25
pincoin Camaro owner since 1982 Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS-RS Conv IBM L99 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: PA Posts: 1,651	Neat story! __________________ 2012 Camaro RS-SS Conv IBM, L99 1968 Camaro RS Coupe 327 AT 1968 Camaro RS-SS Conv, sold 1993

06-22-2012, 12:31 AM	#17
two_wheel_mayhem Would rather be riding Drives: No car no more Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,750	I find it humorous the amount of threads like this where people boast that they know more about a car than the people selling them. It's like bragging that you can beat up a girl. Oh btw, the Camaro is awesome, but it isn't a Corvette in no way shape or form. It's like snap-on vs. craftsman tools, they will both do the job but snap-on is superior in every way.

06-22-2012, 04:58 AM	#26
ChrisBlair Buick 455 Fan Drives: 1970 Buick, 2012 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 5,957	It's easy to beat up on salesmen; some are guys who really don't have the right personality. Some do. But it's uncool to just smack them down, they are trying to do a job and while it's a job most people look down on for some reason, that's no way to treat somebody. For example, when I was talking about trading in my '07 Sol GXP, I was told 'well, you see, they don't make them anymore and Pontiac is gone...' as in 'well here's why we'll low-ball you.' All you have to do is be prepared. I asked him what would happen if I was trading in a 2005 Corvette. He asked me why I asked that. I told him "Well you see, GM doesn't make 2005 Corvettes anymore either, so what's your point about my Pontiac? It's a GM vehicle just like the Corvette and GM is still in business. The parts books are in your service bay" We weren't confrontational or angry about it. It's a game. __________________

06-22-2012, 05:05 AM	#27
sainthinds Drives: 2010 ss Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: mobile al Posts: 36	Yeah the vette is 430 hp zl1 is 560 I think. Its no comparison I have a c5 with 350 hp ls1 the vette is faster than my ss camaro. So yeah vettes are lighter,geared differently I'm pretty sure the z06 or zr1 will smack the zl1 camaro. The base model vette I think is a tad slower than zl1.

06-22-2012, 05:18 AM	#28
ChrisBlair Buick 455 Fan Drives: 1970 Buick, 2012 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 5,957	Yes, the '12 Vette is just over 3200 lbs while the Camaro pushes 4,000; the LS3 is not a standout torque engine either. It's adequate but for the weight it has to move the Camaro would enjoy 50-60 more lb/ft from the factory __________________