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Old 06-24-2010, 02:10 PM   #57
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I'd like to see that chart and I'm sure others would as well.

So if you opt for either of the two larger turbos, a built bottom is suggested, even at 5psi?

I'm sorta new to turbos and I see a set up in my future...
We will be happy to display dyno test results with the 2 other framed turbos once we are able to get them on the r&d car, which currenlty may not be for a while. However we have done the math and we have good estimated guess's for the power and torque curve with both frames.

At 5psi it is not necessary, and 8 psi we believe it is up to the customers choice on building a forged motor. Around 650-700 wheel horsepower is the general limit for what we recommend on the stock LS3/ L99 long block (many other shops as well). However it still may be a good idea even at those power levels to invest in an engine build to have greater insurance. Above 8 psi with the large frame turbos (or 650hp), we highly recommend that you invest in reinforcing you L99/LS3 with proper engine components to handle the extreme cylinder pressures, heat, and friction.

Please let me know if there are any more questions I may be able to help you answer.

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Old 06-24-2010, 02:12 PM   #58
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Great numbers nice job.But i wonder how long a stock ls3 or l99 will hold together with that much HP
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:12 PM   #59
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So if you opt for either of the two larger turbos, a built bottom is suggested, even at 5psi?

I'm sorta new to turbos and I see a set up in my future...
You wouldn't need to build the engine on any of the turbo options at 5psi. However, if you are not going to build the engine (Or don't plan to) then your best-bet is to go with one of the 2 smaller turbos to minimize lag and maximize your power-band

If you want to run 750+ rwhp then a built engine is a must and then either of the GT35R options will make well over 1000rwhp
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:19 PM   #60
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You wouldn't need to build the engine on any of the turbo options at 5psi. However, if you are not going to build the engine (Or don't plan to) then your best-bet is to go with one of the 2 smaller turbos to minimize lag and maximize your power-band

If you want to run 750+ rwhp then a built engine is a must and then either of the GT35R options will make well over 1000rwhp
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I plan on getting the turbo set up first for an instant 200hp kick in the pants, then building the engine or getting a larger one and using the turbos on it. My ultimate goal is 750+ and the associated drivetrain upgrades commensurate with surviving that level of power.

I am looking forward to more pics and the pricing...

Thanks for all your time.
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:39 PM   #61
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Mmmmm HTA wheels.. and that Tial housing... that's just sex. That turbo is art.
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Old 06-24-2010, 03:40 PM   #62
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Is this just for the LS3? I have an L99 and just want to know what kind of gain I would be looking at if its doable. I know stock for stock you take away 25 hp....just wanted to know if it would be the same?
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Old 06-24-2010, 03:42 PM   #63
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Is this just for the LS3? I have an L99 and just want to know what kind of gain I would be looking at if its doable. I know stock for stock you take away 25 hp....just wanted to know if it would be the same?
We are putting the kit on a L99 car next week so we will have results from it soon as well. The client chose the same turbos (GT3582) so the transmission will be the only difference in power output
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Old 06-24-2010, 04:00 PM   #64
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:15 PM   #65
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A stock block is just a ticking time bomb, regardless of how well it is tuned. The ringlands/pistons are the weakest link.

Just prepare to have a few grand stashed away when it blows a ringland.
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:21 PM   #66
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Your gas mileage and tire wear are sure to decrease

Ill take a "Ride along" video when the owner pics up so you get an idea on idle and general street driving.
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I could under stand your mpg is going decrease when you drive like you have a 660 RWHP CAMARO, but crusing at 55 mph in 6th gear, or driving like grandma. I cant see it being worse, if not better. STS claims a 1-3 mpg improvment with there remote twin turbo kit. Although if I have 660 hp, I think I can sacrifice a few mpg.
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:30 PM   #67
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We are putting the kit on a L99 car next week so we will have results from it soon as well. The client chose the same turbos (GT3582) so the transmission will be the only difference in power output
Jeff
What about the camshaft? Seems like the stock LS3 cam ends up making a good deal more rear wheel power than the stock L99 cam when force induction is introduced.

Should be interesting to see the results on the L99.
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:39 PM   #68
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id love too hear and see it ! great job though !
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:42 PM   #69
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We are putting the kit on a L99 car next week so we will have results from it soon as well. The client chose the same turbos (GT3582) so the transmission will be the only difference in power output
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and the fact that its a l99
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