Borla ATAK vs Borla S-Type - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

K1NG BEE · 08-15-2012, 06:11 PM

Which ones does everyone prefer if they had to choose? Also what is the advantage/disadvantage of going with a cat back vs an axle back? I don't know a whole lot about exhaust so thats why I'm asking. I have an automatic 2010 2ss if that matters? I'm open to other exhaust systems as well I just like the sound of those too from what I have heard and I have read its a good brand. It gives it a deeper muscle sound than stock.

Apex Motorsports · 08-15-2012, 06:15 PM

S-Type: deeper tone and quieter than ATAK. Small amount of drone with cat back.

ATAK: louder and raspier than S-type. I've never experienced drone.

As to whether you should do an axle back or cat back, that depends on what you have planned for your car. Oh, and hello from the other side of the river. Feel free to hit us up if you have any questions.

MarylandSpeed · 08-15-2012, 09:19 PM

Atak is great without headers, too loud if you get headers. S-type is pretty quiet without headers, but perfect with headers. I prefer the catback..no cutting the stock exhaust, and the X-pipe makes the systems sound like the videos.

Medi0cr3 · 08-15-2012, 09:52 PM

I have the atak with stock headers and love it. I will be installing the borla LT headers soon and still keep my atak exhaust. Going to go loud =P I will see if the drone is unbearable or not :P

MarylandSpeed · 08-15-2012, 10:07 PM

It's not so much that the Atak is too loud with headers..it is that it is not designed for headers. When you watch Borla's video, they explain how in the Atak, they design each of the multicores with different patterns for each car. When they design these exhausts, they use a stock car with stock manifolds and cats..and the mufflers are basically "tuned" for that setup.

Your car has 4 cats from the factory. When you add headers, and replace those with two high flow cats (or none at all), it creates an untuned sound, which to me is more random noise than muscle car. I had the S-type on my car, and when the Atak came out, I switched..for 3 days. It was just two obnoxious and strange sounding, so I switched back.

The S-type is a straight through, tried, and true bullet muffler, and it seems to just work better with headers.

Falundir · 08-15-2012, 10:48 PM

S Type will induce a ton of drone with headers FYI.

Frid · 08-15-2012, 10:50 PM

I have the ATAK with ARH Lt's. I would have to disagree with what has been said about them above. I absolutely love the sound. I honestly think it isn't as loud as others said and not obnoxious to me.
These are videos of me and my buddy. Both running headers, hf cats and ATAK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=cHyYt4AApN4

swizlstik · 08-15-2012, 11:54 PM

This is mine with 1 3/4 LT headers, high flo cats, and Summit x-pipe. I love the sound of the ATAK's on mine!

mikeSS · 08-16-2012, 01:38 AM

honestly its hard to make a v8 camaro sound bad. to me atak with headers sounds to raspy. but still a good sound if that makes sense. still sounds better than most imports. but i would go S-type with headers. nice clean deep sound.

MarylandSpeed · 08-16-2012, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Falundir

S Type will induce a ton of drone with headers FYI.

My car does not drone untill about 80mph with the S-type. If you are getting a lot of drone, it is likely the cam.

Havok1327 · 08-16-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MarylandSpeed

My car does not drone untill about 80mph with the S-type. If you are getting a lot of drone, it is likely the cam.

I have the S-Type and LT. I have drone at about 1800-2200 RPM. So as long as I stay out of that range I'm good. Unfortunately that's my normal cruising range on the highway.

bannonm · 08-16-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MarylandSpeed

Atak is great without headers, too loud if you get headers. S-type is pretty quiet without headers, but perfect with headers. I prefer the catback..no cutting the stock exhaust, and the X-pipe makes the systems sound like the videos.

+1 on S-type

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Originally Posted by Falundir

S Type will induce a ton of drone with headers FYI.

On my M6 without headers the drone didn't start until 75 MPH. With Kooks installed it starts at about 70 MPH. I wouldn't call it a ton, but it's noticeable.

MarylandSpeed · 08-16-2012, 02:05 PM

The other problem with drone is everyone seems to have different ideas of what it is. I have had people say exhausts drone that I know do not, and vice versa. It seems to be open to interpretation.

K1NG BEE · 08-17-2012, 12:54 AM

is the Borla S-Type going to give me good a performance boost? I plan on possibly adding headers later on. I was looking at the Flowmaster American Thunder catback but I read somewhere if your going for more power to stay away from Flowmaster

08-15-2012, 06:11 PM	#1
K1NG BEE Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New Albany, IN Posts: 79	Borla ATAK vs Borla S-Type Which ones does everyone prefer if they had to choose? Also what is the advantage/disadvantage of going with a cat back vs an axle back? I don't know a whole lot about exhaust so thats why I'm asking. I have an automatic 2010 2ss if that matters? I'm open to other exhaust systems as well I just like the sound of those too from what I have heard and I have read its a good brand. It gives it a deeper muscle sound than stock.

08-15-2012, 06:15 PM	#2
Apex Motorsports Drives: 2000 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky. Posts: 25,179	S-Type: deeper tone and quieter than ATAK. Small amount of drone with cat back. ATAK: louder and raspier than S-type. I've never experienced drone. As to whether you should do an axle back or cat back, that depends on what you have planned for your car. Oh, and hello from the other side of the river. Feel free to hit us up if you have any questions.

08-15-2012, 09:19 PM	#3
MarylandSpeed Account Suspended Drives: 2012 ZL1 & 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,378	Atak is great without headers, too loud if you get headers. S-type is pretty quiet without headers, but perfect with headers. I prefer the catback..no cutting the stock exhaust, and the X-pipe makes the systems sound like the videos.

08-15-2012, 09:52 PM	#4
Medi0cr3 Untamed Performance EPT Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: El Paso Posts: 372	I have the atak with stock headers and love it. I will be installing the borla LT headers soon and still keep my atak exhaust. Going to go loud =P I will see if the drone is unbearable or not :P

08-15-2012, 10:07 PM	#5
MarylandSpeed Account Suspended Drives: 2012 ZL1 & 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,378	It's not so much that the Atak is too loud with headers..it is that it is not designed for headers. When you watch Borla's video, they explain how in the Atak, they design each of the multicores with different patterns for each car. When they design these exhausts, they use a stock car with stock manifolds and cats..and the mufflers are basically "tuned" for that setup. Your car has 4 cats from the factory. When you add headers, and replace those with two high flow cats (or none at all), it creates an untuned sound, which to me is more random noise than muscle car. I had the S-type on my car, and when the Atak came out, I switched..for 3 days. It was just two obnoxious and strange sounding, so I switched back. The S-type is a straight through, tried, and true bullet muffler, and it seems to just work better with headers.

08-15-2012, 10:48 PM	#6
Falundir Drives: 2017 1SS 1LE - Hyper Blue, P85DL Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: East Bay Posts: 2,189 View My Garage	S Type will induce a ton of drone with headers FYI.

08-16-2012, 01:38 AM	#9
mikeSS Drives: 2015 c7 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: MI Posts: 7,462	honestly its hard to make a v8 camaro sound bad. to me atak with headers sounds to raspy. but still a good sound if that makes sense. still sounds better than most imports. but i would go S-type with headers. nice clean deep sound.

08-16-2012, 02:05 PM	#13
MarylandSpeed Account Suspended Drives: 2012 ZL1 & 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,378	The other problem with drone is everyone seems to have different ideas of what it is. I have had people say exhausts drone that I know do not, and vice versa. It seems to be open to interpretation.

08-17-2012, 12:54 AM	#14
K1NG BEE Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New Albany, IN Posts: 79	is the Borla S-Type going to give me good a performance boost? I plan on possibly adding headers later on. I was looking at the Flowmaster American Thunder catback but I read somewhere if your going for more power to stay away from Flowmaster