6'3" wearing a Helmet in a zl1 at the track.

FairyDust · 01-14-2016, 02:21 AM

6'3" wearing a Helmet in a zl1 at the track.

I was at the track today in my 2014 RT challenger Classic. I climbed into my mates 2014 zl1, and at 6'3" I had half inch clearance to roof. Then with the helmet on I had to rake the seat incline back a long way, in a driving position I did not like, just to get in with a helmet on. It was fairly terrible.
I have been looking forward to possible getting a 2016 ss or z** package, for their track prowess but now I'm concerned about the height thing for helmets on the track. In the r/t I can sit bolt upright with helmet on and still have 1-2 inch clearance.
Does anyone know if the 2016 model have addressed this issue and given more clearance for tall people?

Sledgehammer70 · 01-14-2016, 02:30 AM

the 2016 car losses head space. Being 6'5" I know I will have to rake back the seat a bit to fit.

I could not fit in a ZL1 with a sunroof without hitting my head, let alone wearing a helmet.

FairyDust · 01-14-2016, 02:39 AM

Drat that's not what I wanted to hear. Thanks for the info tho.
This zl1 did have a sunroof and recaro seats. But it's obviously an issue.

pkincy · 01-14-2016, 09:23 AM

Lose the sunroof and you should gain an inch or so. I have simply looked at the head/helmet/headliner contact as another way to hold me in the seat. I literally will press my head more upright so the helmet is firmly pushed against the headliner. Not much difference on a track but very helpful in the sharper more numerous changes of direction in an autox situation.

Whitespeed · 01-14-2016, 09:55 AM

I'm 6'7" tall and took my helmet to the dealer when I went to look at a 2016 2SS with no sunroof. He thought I was crazy

Anyway, I fit with the helmet on, with room to spare! Now, I found I was most comfortable with and without the helmet with the seat fully reclined, but the recline is pretty limited in the gen 6.

Regardless, I have to disagree that the 2016 looses head space. From my experience, it's a definite improvement over the gen 5. To fit in the gen 5 (again, no sunroof), I had to sit with the seat reclined significantly father than I would have liked, and my helmet was still pressed into the roof liner. It probably would have been pretty hard on my neck on a bumpy track, and I think would likely lead to injury.

Nigel

KaBoom1701 · 01-14-2016, 10:21 AM

This is why I made sure when I sold my V6 and got the ZL1 that it didn't have a sunroof. ....

SPCBA · 01-14-2016, 10:23 AM

The sunroof is a big part of the issue on 5th gen. The 6th gen seats are supposed to be recessed a little more downwards, but the car also lost dimensions. Take helmet and go sit in one.

FairyDust · 01-14-2016, 10:49 AM

Yes that is a great idea! But the first ones are not due on our shores till
Late February, so I'll have to wait. Thank you for all your replies they have
Been very helpful.

LSLT_Powered26 · 01-14-2016, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

the 2016 car losses head space. Being 6'5" I know I will have to rake back the seat a bit to fit.

I could not fit in a ZL1 with a sunroof without hitting my head, let alone wearing a helmet.

I thought the 16s got a little more head space than the Gen 5s because GM lowered the seating position closer to the floor board. Or was GM just B/Sing us? I haven't gotten to sit in one yet and I don't know what's going on around here in Central Louisiana because I've heard south Louisiana as some.

Whitespeed · 01-14-2016, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSLT_Powered26

I thought the 16s got a little more head space than the Gen 5s because GM lowered the seating position closer to the floor board. Or was GM just B/Sing us? I haven't gotten to sit in one yet and I don't know what's going on around here in Central Louisiana because I've heard south Louisiana as some.

Already posted about this...

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpo...02&postcount=5

Also, I've seen conflicting headroom data. GM lists it at 36.6, but this would be an inch less than the gen 5. However, having been in both, like I already said, this is definitely not the case, and Motor Trend published a headroom spec that was greater than the gen 5.

FairyDust · 01-14-2016, 05:44 PM

I suppose the other option is to go with a convertible . GM have down that on a ZL1 before.then you have infinite headroom. I would have to get a roll cage to comply for track days here. Has anybody tracked a ZL1 covertible with roll bars. Any thought/opinions?
I haven't really wanted a covertible before, rather go with the stiffness of the coupe, although even if it rains you will probably have more room with convertible cover?

01-14-2016, 02:21 AM	#1
FairyDust KURMEE Drives: 2017 Krypton Green 1LE Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: New Zealand Posts: 32	6'3" wearing a Helmet in a zl1 at the track. 6'3" wearing a Helmet in a zl1 at the track. I was at the track today in my 2014 RT challenger Classic. I climbed into my mates 2014 zl1, and at 6'3" I had half inch clearance to roof. Then with the helmet on I had to rake the seat incline back a long way, in a driving position I did not like, just to get in with a helmet on. It was fairly terrible. I have been looking forward to possible getting a 2016 ss or z** package, for their track prowess but now I'm concerned about the height thing for helmets on the track. In the r/t I can sit bolt upright with helmet on and still have 1-2 inch clearance. Does anyone know if the 2016 model have addressed this issue and given more clearance for tall people?

01-14-2016, 02:30 AM	#2
Sledgehammer70 Lethal Camaro Drives: 16 2SS, 71 Std, Suburban RTS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 3,855 View My Garage	the 2016 car losses head space. Being 6'5" I know I will have to rake back the seat a bit to fit. I could not fit in a ZL1 with a sunroof without hitting my head, let alone wearing a helmet. __________________ Thanks My Build Thread \| Lethal Garage YouTube \| Lethal Camaro IG \|

01-14-2016, 09:23 AM	#4
pkincy Drives: 2016 Corvette Z06, 2018 ATS-V Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: S Cal Posts: 157	Lose the sunroof and you should gain an inch or so. I have simply looked at the head/helmet/headliner contact as another way to hold me in the seat. I literally will press my head more upright so the helmet is firmly pushed against the headliner. Not much difference on a track but very helpful in the sharper more numerous changes of direction in an autox situation. __________________ Perry 16 SharkGrey A8 Corvette Z06 18 Cadillac A8 ATS-V

01-14-2016, 10:21 AM	#6
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	This is why I made sure when I sold my V6 and got the ZL1 that it didn't have a sunroof. .... __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

01-14-2016, 10:23 AM	#7
SPCBA Drives: pleather and Chiclets Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: a line somwhere Posts: 4,206 View My Garage	The sunroof is a big part of the issue on 5th gen. The 6th gen seats are supposed to be recessed a little more downwards, but the car also lost dimensions. Take helmet and go sit in one. __________________ the power by www.cunningham-motorsports.com the brakes by www.RacingBrake.com

01-14-2016, 02:39 AM	#3
FairyDust KURMEE Drives: 2017 Krypton Green 1LE Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: New Zealand Posts: 32	Drat that's not what I wanted to hear. Thanks for the info tho. This zl1 did have a sunroof and recaro seats. But it's obviously an issue.

01-14-2016, 09:55 AM	#5
Whitespeed Drives: 2018 1SS 1LE & 1973 Datsun 240Z Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Ontario Posts: 574	I'm 6'7" tall and took my helmet to the dealer when I went to look at a 2016 2SS with no sunroof. He thought I was crazy Anyway, I fit with the helmet on, with room to spare! Now, I found I was most comfortable with and without the helmet with the seat fully reclined, but the recline is pretty limited in the gen 6. Regardless, I have to disagree that the 2016 looses head space. From my experience, it's a definite improvement over the gen 5. To fit in the gen 5 (again, no sunroof), I had to sit with the seat reclined significantly father than I would have liked, and my helmet was still pressed into the roof liner. It probably would have been pretty hard on my neck on a bumpy track, and I think would likely lead to injury. Nigel

01-14-2016, 10:49 AM	#8
FairyDust KURMEE Drives: 2017 Krypton Green 1LE Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: New Zealand Posts: 32	Yes that is a great idea! But the first ones are not due on our shores till Late February, so I'll have to wait. Thank you for all your replies they have Been very helpful.

01-14-2016, 05:44 PM	#11
FairyDust KURMEE Drives: 2017 Krypton Green 1LE Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: New Zealand Posts: 32	I suppose the other option is to go with a convertible . GM have down that on a ZL1 before.then you have infinite headroom. I would have to get a roll cage to comply for track days here. Has anybody tracked a ZL1 covertible with roll bars. Any thought/opinions? I haven't really wanted a covertible before, rather go with the stiffness of the coupe, although even if it rains you will probably have more room with convertible cover?

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