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OldScoolCamaro · 12-19-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by htron50

Maybe this forum is getting a little heavy on "Einstein" discussions.....

<sorry, couldn't resist Htron...>

ron10 · 12-19-2011, 12:17 PM

it wouldn't be better,but it would definitely be faster.

Scarrzz · 12-19-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarrzz

Not necessarily.

Dirigibles are light, but neither fast nor nimble.

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Originally Posted by GrnMchin

But not a sports car, more like an air ship

An yes it could use a diet.

I was using irony to illustrate my unspoken point that lighter is a trade off we make in any complex system. The true mark of excellence is when said system is well balanced and efficient.

By well balanced I mean the parts work well together, not the literal balance point. Efficiency is not dependent on size.

Now I had to go and explain myself and it doesn't sound nearly so witty.

Z4me · 12-19-2011, 01:06 PM

I'd rather keep the wieght the ZL1 has now, then to take a risk as far
as safety is concerned. If I'm in a bad wreck I wanta have as much protection as possible and the best chance of coming away in one piece.
Esp if my wife is cruising with me, which would be the majority of the time.

OldJedi · 12-19-2011, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

That's like saying "should the sun come up tomorrow???"

"Oh Lord - please deliver us from useless polls........"

Thanks Fbodfather, I could not have said it any better. Very cute picture also.

*Camaro_Corvette* · 12-19-2011, 01:27 PM

I will not be satisfied until the car is down to 1lb total.

Blownhotrodder · 12-19-2011, 01:33 PM

The days of so called "light" stripper cars are over especially with all the crash rating standards and having more crap like backup sensors and cameras being mandatory.

midnighter · 12-19-2011, 01:38 PM

Which would be faster, to Japan, or on an airplane?

v8 · 12-19-2011, 01:39 PM

I would like the car to be lighter but I don't think they can have room to cut too much. All the air bags, safety features, wiring, cameras, power seats add weight and I think that if they wanted to reduce weight, they may have to reduce the body panel steel thickness, but I would be against that because the long term effects like corrosion protection would be traded off. These new cars require a lot of things to meet standards so I think thats just the way it is.

LOWDOWN · 12-19-2011, 01:57 PM

The Gen-6, to be built on the ATS chassis, will see marginal weight decrease...on the order of perhaps 200 lb. with equal weight/size engines (more loss with a standard 4-cylinder). It's too late in the Gen-5 lifecycle to see a Jenny Craig version...

To answer the question, anything made "more efficient" (and that includes weight) would have superior vehicle dynamics (handling/cornering/braking/acceleration)...

Ltespd · 12-19-2011, 02:10 PM

To answer the question. Yes...and a lot more expensive.

jmaryt · 12-19-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

That's like saying "should the sun come up tomorrow???"

"Oh Lord - please deliver us from useless polls........"

yes! the car would be better,but just don't hit anything with it,or get hit!
the weight is there for a reason.the car is 5 stars (safety rating) and is still a "ton" of fun!..just sayin'

Pappa Joe · 12-19-2011, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Blueclyde

I think lighter is generally better but comes with trade offs. I personally think the weight is no big deal but that's just me.

Titanium frame,carbon fiber body ...easy

Pappa Joe · 12-19-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

That's like saying "should the sun come up tomorrow???"

"Oh Lord - please deliver us from useless polls........"

Looks like a Chippy Monk

12-19-2011, 01:06 PM	#18
Z4me Drives: 2013 ZL1 IOM Vin #169 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,953	I'd rather keep the wieght the ZL1 has now, then to take a risk as far as safety is concerned. If I'm in a bad wreck I wanta have as much protection as possible and the best chance of coming away in one piece. Esp if my wife is cruising with me, which would be the majority of the time. __________________

12-19-2011, 01:27 PM	#20
Camaro_Corvette 36.58625, -121.7568 Drives: Team 1LE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 23,709 View My Garage	I will not be satisfied until the car is down to 1lb total. __________________ I am seriously never serious vv V vv Next order of business

12-19-2011, 01:39 PM	#23
v8 Drives: 19 Z06 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Oakville Ont. Posts: 1,427	I would like the car to be lighter but I don't think they can have room to cut too much. All the air bags, safety features, wiring, cameras, power seats add weight and I think that if they wanted to reduce weight, they may have to reduce the body panel steel thickness, but I would be against that because the long term effects like corrosion protection would be traded off. These new cars require a lot of things to meet standards so I think thats just the way it is. __________________ Gone but not forgotten: 1974 Corvette Stingray 454 1986 Z28 2009 Mustang GT convertible 2012 45th 2SS Vert 2013 ZL1 M6 2014 Zl1 M6 2014 GT500 2016 Challenger Hellcat M6 www.youtube.com/c/garageking

12-19-2011, 02:10 PM	#25
Ltespd Drives: 2010 SS, 2006 SC Saleen Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 339	To answer the question. Yes...and a lot more expensive. __________________ 2SS/RS, LS3, sunroof, mods.

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12-19-2011, 12:17 PM	#16
ron10 Drives: 2010 2SS IOM L99 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: LOUISVILLE,KY.. Posts: 7,545	it wouldn't be better,but it would definitely be faster.

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12-19-2011, 01:57 PM	#24
LOWDOWN Downright Upright Drives: Daily Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruisin'... Posts: 4,145	The Gen-6, to be built on the ATS chassis, will see marginal weight decrease...on the order of perhaps 200 lb. with equal weight/size engines (more loss with a standard 4-cylinder). It's too late in the Gen-5 lifecycle to see a Jenny Craig version... To answer the question, anything made "more efficient" (and that includes weight) would have superior vehicle dynamics (handling/cornering/braking/acceleration)...