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Chris82xx · 12-09-2012, 05:26 PM

I'm asking because the ZL1 seems like a more affordable and street friendly alternative to a 9" and people are making seem like it a whole project to install.

Synner · 12-09-2012, 06:26 PM

I can't say its fun doing this kind of thing on jack stands but its not difficult. Just somewhat back breaking and time consuming. Depends on what you define as a "whole project" and your skill level.

MA2010SS · 12-09-2012, 07:02 PM

These gen5 camaros have to be some of the easiest cars I have worked on. Doing a rear swap as long as you have the right tools should about 2 - 3 hours to R&R everything using jack stands while taking your time doing that project. I can't wait to see the pricing on the ZL1 differential swap kit.

Chris82xx · 12-09-2012, 07:22 PM

"whole project", meaning I've been reading rumors that the Zl1 rear diff won't fir into the cradle of the SS. Is that a true statement or is just a simple swap out?

JusticePete · 12-09-2012, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris82xx

"whole project", meaning I've been reading rumors that the Zl1 rear diff won't fir into the cradle of the SS. Is that a true statement or is just a simple swap out?

You actually believe something you found on the internet

There is a lot of stuff that floats around and it simply isn't true. GM is seling the ZL1 upgrade as a BOLT in Kit.

Russell James · 12-09-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blazzin1

Any guesses on the price? I'll throw out a "guesstimate" of around $2700. I just don't like the 2-piece driveshaft, I rather sport a 1-piece aluminum or carbon shaft.

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I'd guess more. The ZL1 diff by itself has a retail list price of about $2500, D/S about $700, axles about $600 ea, nuts/bolts about $100.... That ZL1 stuff is pricey, compared to SS driveline parts. $4K ish would be my retail guess, hopefully though a lot less, and discounted by some dealers. Then you have tuning for the speedo error...

Chris82xx · 12-09-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JusticePete

You actually believe something you found on the internet

There is a lot of stuff that floats around and it simply isn't true. GM is seling the ZL1 upgrade as a BOLT in Kit.

Hey, remember the commercial. You can't put anything on the internet that isn't true.

Chris82xx · 12-09-2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell James

I'd guess more. The ZL1 diff by itself has a retail list price of about $2500, D/S about $700, axles about $600 ea, nuts/bolts about $100.... That ZL1 stuff is pricey, compared to SS driveline parts. $4K ish would be my retail guess, hopefully though a lot less, and discounted by some dealers. Then you have tuning for the speedo error...

One of the vendors on here sells the ZL1 diff for $1850. I used his prices and came roughly to about $3k. I'm just not pulling the trigger yet because I want to be certain that I don't need to do any modification to swap it out. Seems like I don't.

Synner · 12-09-2012, 07:54 PM

The ZL1 cradle has the tabs for the cooling lines for the diff cooler. As far as I know thats the only difference. And it aint hard to make something work for that if people even plan on adding the cooler which it seems like most aren't.

And who pays retail?

Chris82xx · 12-09-2012, 07:59 PM

You can't pay retail. Takes the fun out of bargaining.

ADM PERFORMANCE · 12-09-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Synner

The ZL1 cradle has the tabs for the cooling lines for the diff cooler. As far as I know thats the only difference. And it aint hard to make something work for that if people even plan on adding the cooler which it seems like most aren't.

And who pays retail?

There is alot more differences than that,Replace it with the zl1 and never look back

Synner · 12-09-2012, 08:12 PM

Like?

Chris82xx · 12-09-2012, 08:14 PM

JusticePete · 12-09-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Synner

Like?

The sub-frame bushes that are part of the GM kit.

12-09-2012, 05:26 PM	#29
Chris82xx Make your peace with God! Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS M6 Convertible Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 1,595	I'm asking because the ZL1 seems like a more affordable and street friendly alternative to a 9" and people are making seem like it a whole project to install. __________________ ECS base supercharger (NOVI 1500SL), ECS AlKY control kit, 92mm TB, ARH 1 7/8" LT's non-catted, Borla 3" exhaust, ID850 injectors, Squash fuel system, ECS Big Blower Cam, MGW short throw shifter, DSS 1000hp axles, LGW differential cover, billet caps, Tech AFX heater hoses, Pedders differential bushings, Eaton TrueTrac differential, PRC dual valve springs, Katech C5R timing chain, ATI balancer, Meilings oil pump, Pfadt Trailing Arms, Pfadt Tie Rods, Pfadt Sway Bars, Pfadt End Links, DSS Aluminum Driveshaft 811RWHP/719RWTQ UNDER MAJOR OVERHAUL!!

12-09-2012, 07:02 PM	#31
MA2010SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Somerset MA Posts: 725 View My Garage	These gen5 camaros have to be some of the easiest cars I have worked on. Doing a rear swap as long as you have the right tools should about 2 - 3 hours to R&R everything using jack stands while taking your time doing that project. I can't wait to see the pricing on the ZL1 differential swap kit. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS Whipple SC, CAI Inc Intake, TSP 1 7/8" LT headers no cats, 3" magnaflow exhaust, HPT, RX Catch Can, LSR Toe Rods, LSR Trailing Arms, ALKY Control Meth, McLeod RXT Twin Disc, ZL1 fuel pump, 3.73 ZL1 Differential Kit, BTR PDS Stage 2 Cam, Tuned by SLOWHAWK Performance Bridgewater MA

12-09-2012, 07:22 PM	#32
Chris82xx Make your peace with God! Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS M6 Convertible Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 1,595	"whole project", meaning I've been reading rumors that the Zl1 rear diff won't fir into the cradle of the SS. Is that a true statement or is just a simple swap out? __________________ ECS base supercharger (NOVI 1500SL), ECS AlKY control kit, 92mm TB, ARH 1 7/8" LT's non-catted, Borla 3" exhaust, ID850 injectors, Squash fuel system, ECS Big Blower Cam, MGW short throw shifter, DSS 1000hp axles, LGW differential cover, billet caps, Tech AFX heater hoses, Pedders differential bushings, Eaton TrueTrac differential, PRC dual valve springs, Katech C5R timing chain, ATI balancer, Meilings oil pump, Pfadt Trailing Arms, Pfadt Tie Rods, Pfadt Sway Bars, Pfadt End Links, DSS Aluminum Driveshaft 811RWHP/719RWTQ UNDER MAJOR OVERHAUL!!

12-09-2012, 07:59 PM	#38
Chris82xx Make your peace with God! Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS M6 Convertible Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 1,595	You can't pay retail. Takes the fun out of bargaining. __________________ ECS base supercharger (NOVI 1500SL), ECS AlKY control kit, 92mm TB, ARH 1 7/8" LT's non-catted, Borla 3" exhaust, ID850 injectors, Squash fuel system, ECS Big Blower Cam, MGW short throw shifter, DSS 1000hp axles, LGW differential cover, billet caps, Tech AFX heater hoses, Pedders differential bushings, Eaton TrueTrac differential, PRC dual valve springs, Katech C5R timing chain, ATI balancer, Meilings oil pump, Pfadt Trailing Arms, Pfadt Tie Rods, Pfadt Sway Bars, Pfadt End Links, DSS Aluminum Driveshaft 811RWHP/719RWTQ UNDER MAJOR OVERHAUL!!

12-09-2012, 08:14 PM	#41
Chris82xx Make your peace with God! Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/RS M6 Convertible Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 1,595	__________________ ECS base supercharger (NOVI 1500SL), ECS AlKY control kit, 92mm TB, ARH 1 7/8" LT's non-catted, Borla 3" exhaust, ID850 injectors, Squash fuel system, ECS Big Blower Cam, MGW short throw shifter, DSS 1000hp axles, LGW differential cover, billet caps, Tech AFX heater hoses, Pedders differential bushings, Eaton TrueTrac differential, PRC dual valve springs, Katech C5R timing chain, ATI balancer, Meilings oil pump, Pfadt Trailing Arms, Pfadt Tie Rods, Pfadt Sway Bars, Pfadt End Links, DSS Aluminum Driveshaft 811RWHP/719RWTQ UNDER MAJOR OVERHAUL!!

12-09-2012, 06:26 PM	#30
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,545	I can't say its fun doing this kind of thing on jack stands but its not difficult. Just somewhat back breaking and time consuming. Depends on what you define as a "whole project" and your skill level.

12-09-2012, 07:54 PM	#37
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,545	The ZL1 cradle has the tabs for the cooling lines for the diff cooler. As far as I know thats the only difference. And it aint hard to make something work for that if people even plan on adding the cooler which it seems like most aren't. And who pays retail?

12-09-2012, 08:12 PM	#40
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,545	Like?