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Old 05-11-2016, 06:34 PM   #1
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Catch Can Believer!!

Just checked my Elite Engineering Catch Can for the first time in 4 months. . . SEEING IS BELIEVING!! To think all of this would have been recycled back into my intake system is CRAZY! This catch can is, by far, of my most affordable and important modification to date!

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Old 05-11-2016, 06:54 PM   #2
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Yeah, but now we need to have a clean side catch can to capture the gunk that flows into the intake at wide open throttle. Now, I got to save up for clean side can now. It never ends. lol!
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Old 05-11-2016, 06:59 PM   #3
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Clean side catch can??
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Old 05-11-2016, 08:53 PM   #4
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Old 05-11-2016, 08:57 PM   #5
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Clean side catch can??
Yes, it sends oil mist vapors back into the oil fill port instead of going through the intake during WOT conditions. Not really a catch can per se since it drains the oil back into the valve cover where the oil fill cap is. However, it's another thing you have to get to ensure 100% oil free air going inside the intake system.
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Old 05-11-2016, 09:18 PM   #6
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Yes, it sends oil mist vapors back into the oil fill port instead of going through the intake during WOT conditions. Not really a catch can per se since it drains the oil back into the valve cover where the oil fill cap is. However, it's another thing you have to get to ensure 100% oil free air going inside the intake system.
Can this be routed to a catch can with check valves?

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Old 05-11-2016, 09:40 PM   #7
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I posted videos of the entire install with clean side if you need to see how to install it.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:49 AM   #8
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Anyone wanting more details on how the different Elite systems work, and which ones for different applications, just ask.


The CSS (Cleanside separator) is similar to the GM 1LE plastic unit, but is 6061 T6 billet aluminum and and actually contains stainless coalescing media inside the separation chamber where the GM unit is empty plastic. The Elite unit can be used year round and is app. 1/2 the price of the GM unit.


This addresses the oil mist that enters via the cleanside of the PCV system. Also, the PCV system from the factory relies solely on the intake manifold vacuum for evacuation suction, and when you accelerate or go WOT, vacuum drops to zero in the IM and the Elite E2 and E2-X have dual outlets that allow (using our billet checkvalves) a secondary suction source so the PCV will evacuate at all operating levels maintaining the correct fresh in, foul out flow that properly flushes the combustion by-products and other contaminants from the crankcase at all times.


This keeps the engine oil cleaner longer, and increases engine life by reducing the wear these compounds cause. The E2-X comes standard with the checkvalves and AN fittings and is the most effective solution available for the price. If you have a GDI engine, the LLT/LFX/LGX V6 and the LT1 V8 (2016 and up) then the E2-X is the system designed to stop nearly all of this ingestion as GDI engine cannot tolerate any oil ingestion where the LS V8 being port injection could.


Be aware that the average catchcan no matter the brand name, only traps 15-20% of the oil and other compounds that enter them, the E2 and E2-X trap nearly all of this.
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Old 05-12-2016, 11:06 AM   #9
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I do believe a catch can is a good thing, BUT, as of late, and from other posts, I fear what Chevy is doing, by not honoring the warranty if you have an oil pump fail and have a catch can. I'm not so sure I want to take that expense and chance. And from what I also have read, that the oil pumps are not the best in our cars. Yes, I know, I can be considered a nervous Nellie, but I don't have the option of not having my car or paying for a major expense that should be covered under warranty.
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Old 05-12-2016, 11:47 AM   #10
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Anyone wanting more details on how the different Elite systems work, and which ones for different applications, just ask.


The CSS (Cleanside separator) is similar to the GM 1LE plastic unit, but is 6061 T6 billet aluminum and and actually contains stainless coalescing media inside the separation chamber where the GM unit is empty plastic. The Elite unit can be used year round and is app. 1/2 the price of the GM unit.


This addresses the oil mist that enters via the cleanside of the PCV system. Also, the PCV system from the factory relies solely on the intake manifold vacuum for evacuation suction, and when you accelerate or go WOT, vacuum drops to zero in the IM and the Elite E2 and E2-X have dual outlets that allow (using our billet checkvalves) a secondary suction source so the PCV will evacuate at all operating levels maintaining the correct fresh in, foul out flow that properly flushes the combustion by-products and other contaminants from the crankcase at all times.


This keeps the engine oil cleaner longer, and increases engine life by reducing the wear these compounds cause. The E2-X comes standard with the checkvalves and AN fittings and is the most effective solution available for the price. If you have a GDI engine, the LLT/LFX/LGX V6 and the LT1 V8 (2016 and up) then the E2-X is the system designed to stop nearly all of this ingestion as GDI engine cannot tolerate any oil ingestion where the LS V8 being port injection could.


Be aware that the average catchcan no matter the brand name, only traps 15-20% of the oil and other compounds that enter them, the E2 and E2-X trap nearly all of this.
Any good deals for members? I'm looking to upgrade my catch can to one of your quality units.
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Old 05-12-2016, 12:33 PM   #12
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I do believe a catch can is a good thing, BUT, as of late, and from other posts, I fear what Chevy is doing, by not honoring the warranty if you have an oil pump fail and have a catch can. I'm not so sure I want to take that expense and chance. And from what I also have read, that the oil pumps are not the best in our cars. Yes, I know, I can be considered a nervous Nellie, but I don't have the option of not having my car or paying for a major expense that should be covered under warranty.
bknblk, This is the ONLY case in 15 years and thousands and thousands of these in use (for the ELite systems, some other that vent or defeat the PCV systems functions would be grounds as they can cause engine damage/failure), and it appears GM is getting the whole story now and is back tracking. These cannot void a warranty legally. So very little to worry about.


As for pricing, there are several vendors here that have sales at times. You can email us direct as well: sales@eliteengineeringUSA.com




Make sure you always empty these before they get more than 1/3 or so full to ensure they still trap all possible. If left to fill then the oil and other contaminants are still pulled in.



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Old 05-12-2016, 02:13 PM   #13
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I have an EE catch can and have had it on the car since it was new. It now has about 10K miles on it, and in that time it has captured about 8-9 oz. of contaminants. I empty it every 1K miles or so and it always has about an ounce in it. It seems to be working just fine.

I'm not really worried about a voided warranty for a couple of reasons:
1) The problems seem be more with V8 engines, not LFX

2) FWIW, my dealer has said that certain mods like a catch can and CAI will NOT void the warranty. They have even installed mods for me. The "does it or doesn't it" void the warranty issue seems to be on a dealer-by-dealer basis, and there in no uniformity in GM's policy. I hope I don't have to put that to the test, but as far as catch cans go, I personally don't believe they can cause an engine failure.

My car is basically a daily driver. It isn't driven (much) at WOT and even though there may be benefits to a cleanside separator, I don't know how much that would benefit my car with the way it's driven.
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