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Robbie1227 · 07-11-2016, 06:58 PM

How accurate is the digital oil temp gauge displayed on our Z28 dashboards?
I run as high as 295 on the road track and it gets me nervous!
I'm running Mobil 1 15w-50 as per the track specs.
It's still pretty clear looking
I just need to know I'm not damaging car
Thx
Rob

Stephen12ZL1 · 07-12-2016, 06:40 AM

295 is within specs...I wouldn't worry as the temps go down quickly after the track session. In my ZL1, the oil temps would frequently get to 310-320 at the end of a session.

Robbie1227 · 07-12-2016, 07:16 PM

Mine too, and that's why I got rid of it!
Now my Z28 is in the 285-295 range and everyone at the track is like, wow...that's hot!
Inside I'm thinking Crap! I sold my less expensive, and faster ZL1 for a NA Z28 and I still have hot oil!
It's does come down within minutes of exiting the track, so I felt that was good!

Thor142 · 07-13-2016, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie1227

How accurate is the digital oil temp gauge displayed on our Z28 dashboards?
I run as high as 295 on the road track and it gets me nervous!
I'm running Mobil 1 15w-50 as per the track specs.
It's still pretty clear looking
I just need to know I'm not damaging car
Thx
Rob

The answer is not very. The gen 5 Camaro uses inputs from several sensors to estimate the oil temperature. There are quite a few threads on it.

JusticePete · 07-13-2016, 08:49 AM

You need an oil cooler if you run an LS7 on a road course regardless of the vehicle.

It doesn't hurt to install track bars where the bumper bars used to be either. More air flow and about 40 pounds less weight.

Fastduo · 07-21-2016, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

You need an oil cooler if you run an LS7 on a road course regardless of the vehicle.

It doesn't hurt to install track bars where the bumper bars used to be either. More air flow and about 40 pounds less weight.

I too and hitting 300 degrees on my oil temps and about 245 on coolant. Most recently at Homestead Miami speedway, I got the warning on the dash that showed turn off a/c for engine temp. The a/c was already off.

Justice, what oil temps are you getting with your aftermarket cooler?

Niemienator · 07-21-2016, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

You need an oil cooler if you run an LS7 on a road course regardless of the vehicle.

It doesn't hurt to install track bars where the bumper bars used to be either. More air flow and about 40 pounds less weight.

Interested in your oil cooler set up... Is it a kit and what temps are you experiencing on road coarse?

Grüne Hölle 1LE · 08-12-2016, 10:48 AM

Interested as well

JusticePete · 08-12-2016, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastduo

I too and hitting 300 degrees on my oil temps and about 245 on coolant. Most recently at Homestead Miami speedway, I got the warning on the dash that showed turn off a/c for engine temp. The a/c was already off.

Justice, what oil temps are you getting with your aftermarket cooler?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niemienator

Interested in your oil cooler set up... Is it a kit and what temps are you experiencing on road coarse?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grüne Hölle 1LE

Interested as well

With a built LS7 style motor measuring temperature with a stand alone sensor running in 95 degree plus temperatures at Charlotte and COTA with the track temperatures in excess of 120 degrees we saw peak oil temperatures of 210 degrees.

These have all been custom installations, but I see no reason we couldn't package this as a kit. We use http://www.bmrs.net/ (Brown and Miller) -12 crimped on fittings and lines. They are not cheap

, but they do not leak.

KaBoom1701 · 08-12-2016, 03:09 PM

LOL, this is funny. I have a similar thread going in the ZL1 forums.

Must be the hot summer months.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

With a built LS7 style motor measuring temperature with a stand alone sensor running in 95 degree plus temperatures at Charlotte and COTA with the track temperatures in excess of 120 degrees we saw peak oil temperatures of 210 degrees.

These have all been custom installations, but I see no reason we couldn't package this as a kit. We use http://www.bmrs.net/ (Brown and Miller) -12 crimped on fittings and lines. They are not cheap

, but they do not leak.

JP, I would be interested in this oil cooler kit if you get one made up. I think it's a good idea to add some additional cooling while at the track.

JusticePete · 08-12-2016, 03:30 PM

Working on a kit.

JusticePete · 08-15-2016, 02:51 PM

These are the main components to the oil cooler kit.

Convoluted PTFE Hose http://www.bmrs.net/PTFE_hose_01.html
Crimped on Race Quality Fittings http://www.bmrs.net/AC-crimped_fittings_01.html
Massive Fluidynne Cooler https://www.summitracing.com/parts/f...0618/overview/
Improved Racing Oil Block with or without Thermostat http://www.improvedracing.com/oil-co...12f-p-435.html

We are working out the details for a bolt on bracket as opposed to the custom brackets we have been making. The lines and fittings are the best you can buy to minimize any potential for leaks.

Anthony @ LG Motorsports · 08-19-2016, 05:51 PM

At 290+ oil temps you need to change the oil after the event. The oil may hold up but the additive packages in almost every oil out there is going to start burning off and not leaving you with much protection.

Ideally you would like to see the car to run 200-220 water temps and if you can keep oil temps under 275 your doing great on a hot summer day.

Kudo's to Pete for the BMRS stuff. I don't know of a better line and fitting company on the market today. Not to mention how light their hose and fittings are and the amount they can bend without crimping. We haven't used anything but them for the better part of 10 years now on all of our track builds.

KaBoom1701 · 08-19-2016, 06:20 PM

I'm holding off on any more track events until I get this additional oil cooler installed.

07-11-2016, 06:58 PM	#1
Robbie1227 Drives: 2015 Camaro Z28/2016 Jeep Sahara Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 544	Oil temp advice How accurate is the digital oil temp gauge displayed on our Z28 dashboards? I run as high as 295 on the road track and it gets me nervous! I'm running Mobil 1 15w-50 as per the track specs. It's still pretty clear looking I just need to know I'm not damaging car Thx Rob __________________ 2015 summit white Z28 #120 TRK DAY -Sun-Tek PPF-C protection film on 2/3 of the car, Moreno Camber plates, American Racing 2" ceramic coated LT headers and X-pipes with No Cats, Taylor red performance wires, NGK plugs, BTR Stage III Cam, MSD Atomic intake, Nick Williams 102mm throttle body, Stage 2 CNC Ported Heads by WCCH, MGW short throw shifter, oil catch can, and a dyno tune to get me to 587 RWHP and 516 RWTQ GONE: 2013 Summit White Camaro ZL1 M6 Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks headers and CAT delete, ATI damper and 10% pulley and balancer! Results: 576 RWHP - 540 RWTQ

07-12-2016, 06:40 AM	#2
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,808	295 is within specs...I wouldn't worry as the temps go down quickly after the track session. In my ZL1, the oil temps would frequently get to 310-320 at the end of a session. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

07-12-2016, 07:16 PM	#3
Robbie1227 Drives: 2015 Camaro Z28/2016 Jeep Sahara Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 544	Mine too, and that's why I got rid of it! Now my Z28 is in the 285-295 range and everyone at the track is like, wow...that's hot! Inside I'm thinking Crap! I sold my less expensive, and faster ZL1 for a NA Z28 and I still have hot oil! It's does come down within minutes of exiting the track, so I felt that was good! __________________ 2015 summit white Z28 #120 TRK DAY -Sun-Tek PPF-C protection film on 2/3 of the car, Moreno Camber plates, American Racing 2" ceramic coated LT headers and X-pipes with No Cats, Taylor red performance wires, NGK plugs, BTR Stage III Cam, MSD Atomic intake, Nick Williams 102mm throttle body, Stage 2 CNC Ported Heads by WCCH, MGW short throw shifter, oil catch can, and a dyno tune to get me to 587 RWHP and 516 RWTQ GONE: 2013 Summit White Camaro ZL1 M6 Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks headers and CAT delete, ATI damper and 10% pulley and balancer! Results: 576 RWHP - 540 RWTQ

08-19-2016, 06:20 PM	#14
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	I'm holding off on any more track events until I get this additional oil cooler installed. __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

07-13-2016, 08:49 AM	#5
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	You need an oil cooler if you run an LS7 on a road course regardless of the vehicle. It doesn't hurt to install track bars where the bumper bars used to be either. More air flow and about 40 pounds less weight.

08-12-2016, 10:48 AM	#8
Grüne Hölle 1LE Drives: 14 Z/28 #347 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 98	Interested as well

08-12-2016, 03:30 PM	#11
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	Working on a kit.

08-15-2016, 02:51 PM	#12
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	These are the main components to the oil cooler kit. Convoluted PTFE Hose http://www.bmrs.net/PTFE_hose_01.html Crimped on Race Quality Fittings http://www.bmrs.net/AC-crimped_fittings_01.html Massive Fluidynne Cooler https://www.summitracing.com/parts/f...0618/overview/ Improved Racing Oil Block with or without Thermostat http://www.improvedracing.com/oil-co...12f-p-435.html We are working out the details for a bolt on bracket as opposed to the custom brackets we have been making. The lines and fittings are the best you can buy to minimize any potential for leaks.

08-19-2016, 05:51 PM	#13
Anthony @ LG Motorsports Drives: 1994 1LE / 2006 Z51 Corvette Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 2,829	At 290+ oil temps you need to change the oil after the event. The oil may hold up but the additive packages in almost every oil out there is going to start burning off and not leaving you with much protection. Ideally you would like to see the car to run 200-220 water temps and if you can keep oil temps under 275 your doing great on a hot summer day. Kudo's to Pete for the BMRS stuff. I don't know of a better line and fitting company on the market today. Not to mention how light their hose and fittings are and the amount they can bend without crimping. We haven't used anything but them for the better part of 10 years now on all of our track builds.