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Old 08-07-2009, 06:22 PM   #15
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Okay... Am finding it as difficult as I expected. What does a stock standard transmission 2010 'maro do if
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I was under the belief the cars top speed is in 4th gear.
...which leaves plenty of reason to have ultra-tall smooth quiet highway torquing gears for 5 and 6. Though, the Camaro's 6th gear is pretty decently tall anyway.
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Old 08-07-2009, 06:39 PM   #16
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But unless you're going to the salt flats or a road course with super long straights I don't think top speed will be that crucial to your cars performance. So 4.10s will be plenty for the street and strip.
You wouldn't want to take it to the salt flats to test your vehicle's top speed. Those old lake beds are much softer than asphalt and create much more friction between the ground and the tires than hard asphalt. If you took it to a long enough stretch of road, though, your best bet would be to tape up the nose of the car to reduce drag.


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well, if you could drive in a vacuum with no gravity then theoretically yes you could get up to that speed, however you have a form of terminal velocity. cus you have to keep in mind that you have air resistance and gravity that will not allow you to get to that speed.
As long as you're moving perpendicular to the force of gravity (or in line with it), it will not slow you down, as it's not an opposing force. Driving in a vacuum would remove most of the drag against the car, with the friction between the tires and the road being the only other outside opposing force.
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You wouldn't want to take it to the salt flats to test your vehicle's top speed. Those old lake beds are much softer than asphalt and create much more friction between the ground and the tires than hard asphalt. If you took it to a long enough stretch of road, though, your best bet would be to tape up the nose of the car to reduce drag.




As long as you're moving perpendicular to the force of gravity (or in line with it), it will not slow you down, as it's not an opposing force. Driving in a vacuum would remove most of the drag against the car, with the friction between the tires and the road being the only other outside opposing force.
you watch to much top gear

if you do tape it up though remember its gonna over heat really quick
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you watch to much top gear

if you do tape it up though remember its gonna over heat really quick
Hahah well it is quite possibly the greatest automotive television show EVER. And I think the Camaro actually uses a scoop underneath the front fascia to direct air onto the radiator. I think. I know the Corvettes do. I could be completely wrong though.
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Old 08-07-2009, 08:45 PM   #19
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You wouldn't want to take it to the salt flats to test your vehicle's top speed. Those old lake beds are much softer than asphalt and create much more friction between the ground and the tires than hard asphalt. If you took it to a long enough stretch of road, though, your best bet would be to tape up the nose of the car to reduce drag.




As long as you're moving perpendicular to the force of gravity (or in line with it), it will not slow you down, as it's not an opposing force. Driving in a vacuum would remove most of the drag against the car, with the friction between the tires and the road being the only other outside opposing force.
1) such a long, straight stretch of road does not exist, to the best of my knowledge. And a 2 lane highway, even if it were closed down, is too narrow (ie dangerous) to try it anyways. A massive runway would be the best, such as the one out at Groom Lake. But last I checked, they don't like it when people come visit, something about 'No Trespassing: Deadly Force is Authorized' or words to that effect.
2) gravity does play a roll in slowing the car down, though its effect is quite small. The cycling of the suspension, the friction on axle bearings, and other stuff like that count as losses and are present because of gravity, but ... not many ever worry about them
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As long as you're moving perpendicular to the force of gravity (or in line with it), it will not slow you down, as it's not an opposing force. Driving in a vacuum would remove most of the drag against the car, with the friction between the tires and the road being the only other outside opposing force.
if you are moving perpendicular to the force of gravity it will be an opposing force. gravity pulling down on the car creates the friction between the tires and the road. not much force, but its there.

but moving in line with it would either speed you up or slow you down depending on which way the force of gravity was pulling.
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I think the Camaro actually uses a scoop underneath the front fascia to direct air onto the radiator. I think. I know the Corvettes do. I could be completely wrong though.
3rd and 4th generation Camaros did, and some had no front grille at all. With the huge gaping grille on the 5th gen, it would be wasteful to use a scoop underneath, as it would add unnecessary aerodynamic drag.

Can anyone confirm whether the 5th gen uses a scoop underneath? Look for a flat plastic thing hanging down that goes all the way across the front, below the radiator, and in front of/above it there's a large opening for air to get up to the radiator.
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3rd and 4th generation Camaros did, and some had no front grille at all. With the huge gaping grille on the 5th gen, it would be wasteful to use a scoop underneath, as it would add unnecessary aerodynamic drag.

Can anyone confirm whether the 5th gen uses a scoop underneath? Look for a flat plastic thing hanging down that goes all the way across the front, below the radiator, and in front of/above it there's a large opening for air to get up to the radiator.

I have no idea if they scoop air from underneath but I would guess they do get some from there just like the 1st and 2nd gens did.
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Hahah well it is quite possibly the greatest automotive television show EVER. And I think the Camaro actually uses a scoop underneath the front fascia to direct air onto the radiator. I think. I know the Corvettes do. I could be completely wrong though.
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just a guess i believe it gets air from both
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