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Old 01-27-2010, 02:39 PM   #15
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So with all these "updates", do we just show up to a dealer to get this done, or would they call us in saying we NEED them?
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Old 01-27-2010, 02:56 PM   #16
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"Since GM is closing us down soon" Are you a dealer ? Or...........?
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Old 01-27-2010, 02:58 PM   #17
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Anyone can get this information by logging into a AC Delco Site and paying a subscription fee. Pretty sure there is a rule or law against the method of this being posted here without permission from GM. And I hope you know it's traceable. Not a good idea on your part.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:00 PM   #18
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Anyone can get this information by logging into a AC Delco Site and paying a subscription fee. Pretty sure there is a rule or law against the method of this being posted here without permission from GM. And I hope you know it's traceable. Not a good idea on your part.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:05 PM   #19
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Wheel Hop over the years:

1967: Ladder bars (traction bars) bolted onto leaf springs/rear axle.

2010: Software update in computer.

Progress rules.
MY 1966 GTO AND 1967 GTO HOPPED AROUND LIKE CRAZY.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:14 PM   #20
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Dealer. Tell them your complaint and they if are smart enough should check the system for updates first.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:16 PM   #21
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Anyone can get this information by logging into a AC Delco Site and paying a subscription fee. Pretty sure there is a rule or law against the method of this being posted here without permission from GM. And I hope you know it's traceable. Not a good idea on your part.
Freedom of info -- I didn't post what each bulletin says in it. Just that there is bulletins.
Is this Rick Wagner? Or another flunky?
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:26 PM   #22
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All that and I didnt see one thing about the pdim being a complete POS.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:36 PM   #23
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Labor Operation Z1111 - Suspected Tampering
Effective January 1, 2009 a new labor operation Z1111, Documentation of Vehicle Tampering or Non-GM Vehicle Modifications can be used to reimburse the dealership for the time used to identify and document customer concerns that the dealership has determined are the result of tampering or non-GM vehicle modifications to a vehicle.

Tampering is defined as causing intentional damage to a vehicle and is not covered under the terms of the GM New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

Tampering can include, but is not limited to:

• inducing an electrical components and/or system failures

• disconnecting wires or connectors

• intentional contamination of fluids

Non-GM vehicle modifications include, but are not limited to:

• installation of non-GM accessories

• installation of suspension lowering or lift kits

• installation of aftermarket tires and/or wheels

• installation of "power-up chip" and/or non-GM control module calibrations.
So what you're saying is that if you replace an existing part, that is not an "accessory" such as a camshaft, or headers, any damage to the engine may still be covered under warranty??? I know that this is not true, but the wording never says anything about "non-GM" replacement parts.... Just saying....

I'll be sure not to replace my tires as to not void my warranty either
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:53 PM   #24
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Anyone can get this information by logging into a AC Delco Site and paying a subscription fee. Pretty sure there is a rule or law against the method of this being posted here without permission from GM. And I hope you know it's traceable. Not a good idea on your part.
are you his dad?
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Old 01-27-2010, 04:14 PM   #25
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Is this for adding HID headlights to a LT?

#PIC5196: Upgrading To RPO T4F High Intensity Discharge (HID) Headlamps - keywords accessory add change exterior forward halo harness headlamp lamp light lighting WRS - (Jun 22, 2009)
#PIC5182: Vehicles With HID RPO T4F Not Equipped With Fog Lamps - keywords day DRL fob head headlamp headlight hid lamp left light lights right running time - (Jun 8, 2009)
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Old 01-27-2010, 04:20 PM   #26
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are you his dad?
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Old 01-27-2010, 04:22 PM   #27
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Is this for adding HID headlights to a LT?

#PIC5196: Upgrading To RPO T4F High Intensity Discharge (HID) Headlamps - keywords accessory add change exterior forward halo harness headlamp lamp light lighting WRS - (Jun 22, 2009)
#PIC5182: Vehicles With HID RPO T4F Not Equipped With Fog Lamps - keywords day DRL fob head headlamp headlight hid lamp left light lights right running time - (Jun 8, 2009)

a quick google search on the first one reveals that the buletin says basically, that this cannot be done, do not attempt it.
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:13 AM   #28
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For these software updates do we just call dealer and ask for all updates?
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