New throttle body spacer from Vararam - my thoughts... - Page 99 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Pro Stock John · 08-21-2012, 05:11 PM

There like 20 useful threads in this post and that's it. Did Falundir post a dyno graph?

The 2010 Sin · 08-21-2012, 05:11 PM

I can definitely tell gains in throttle response. I have a full build H/C car and notice a difference

IndeedSS1 · 08-21-2012, 05:40 PM

I got the same impression as Higgs after removing the spacer. It is almost as if the gains felt after installing weren't noticably decreased upon removal. Obviously that makes no sense. Tonight, I'm going to throw on my stock intake

and no wedge. I'll give it enough time that it feels normal, and then add the wedge back on.

It will be interesting to see if any gains are more pronounced with the stock intake versus the Vararam intake which is pretty good all by itself.

Yes I know there was supposed to be some dyno pulls from me, but timing hasn't worked out so far. If things sync up and the stock intake is still on then that may be the setup that gets compared.

At this point I'm a bit discouraged by the response others have had to those that have provided data. I'm really not excited about spending a couple hundred bucks only to post data and it be completely discounted.

Anyway more to come with the stock intake impressions.

cipriank · 08-21-2012, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camarowguy

The more I look at it, the more I wonder why you posted this and then pointed that out with the obvious deviation at the beginning which is obviously a hint that wide open throttle didn't occur at the same time in both runs. Obviously. Lol.

Where you there for the actual dyno to be certain of the WOT deviation or are we assuming??

If not given addtional facts from Vararam, one would think both tests were done in the same matter.

IndeedSS1 · 08-21-2012, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cipriank

Where you there for the actual dyno to be certain of the WOT deviation or are we assuming??

If not given addtional facts from Vararam, one would think both tests were done in the same matter.

I haven't looked at it in a while but I believe the AFR gives it away.

Camarowguy · 08-21-2012, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cipriank

Where you there for the actual dyno to be certain of the WOT deviation or are we assuming??

If not given addtional facts from Vararam, one would think both tests were done in the same matter.

I'm not an idiot. Look at the chart. At 2100 rpm, without reads 66hp, and with reads 21hp. Do you really think at that point it was to the floor? No. They rolled into the throttle. I can't believe that a little bit of common sense isn't being used here. Obviously people will argue about anything.

Higgs Boson · 08-21-2012, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cipriank

Where you there for the actual dyno to be certain of the WOT deviation or are we assuming??

If not given addtional facts from Vararam, one would think both tests were done in the same matter.

I'll have to agree with camarowguy here, common sense says that low engine speeds do have a lot of variance with regard to steady airflow and tiny changes in throttle position.

what I want to know is what did the guy running the dyno/tuner guy say when he saw the results?

Pro Stock John · 08-22-2012, 10:20 PM

Mine came in (thx J!).

Okay thicker part at the top, and just tighten it to snug? Gasket goes between the wedge and the TB or the wedge and the intake?

Higgs Boson · 08-22-2012, 10:30 PM

wedge/tb

Iwantone2 · 08-22-2012, 10:30 PM

Gasket goes between TB and Wedge

2SSRSinBama · 08-22-2012, 10:41 PM

mine arrives tomorrow

Iwantone2 · 08-23-2012, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

I got the same impression as Higgs after removing the spacer. It is almost as if the gains felt after installing weren't noticably decreased upon removal. Obviously that makes no sense. Tonight, I'm going to throw on my stock intake

and no wedge. I'll give it enough time that it feels normal, and then add the wedge back on.

It will be interesting to see if any gains are more pronounced with the stock intake versus the Vararam intake which is pretty good all by itself.

Yes I know there was supposed to be some dyno pulls from me, but timing hasn't worked out so far. If things sync up and the stock intake is still on then that may be the setup that gets compared.

At this point I'm a bit discouraged by the response others have had to those that have provided data. I'm really not excited about spending a couple hundred bucks only to post data and it be completely discounted.

Anyway more to come with the stock intake impressions.

IndeedSS1 · 08-23-2012, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iwantone2

Must be a kid thing, because I don't get it

Iwantone2 · 08-23-2012, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndeedSS1

Must be a kid thing, because I don't get it

I'm agreeing with your post: Even though there is data being provided, it is still being dismissed by others as jibberish.

08-21-2012, 05:11 PM	#1373
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	There like 20 useful threads in this post and that's it. Did Falundir post a dyno graph? __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

08-21-2012, 05:11 PM	#1374
The 2010 Sin Dont H8 Me Cuz U Aint Me Drives: 2016 SS Sedan, 2017 Explorer Sport Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 2,910	I can definitely tell gains in throttle response. I have a full build H/C car and notice a difference __________________

08-21-2012, 05:40 PM	#1375
IndeedSS1 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Eastern MO Posts: 3,786	I got the same impression as Higgs after removing the spacer. It is almost as if the gains felt after installing weren't noticably decreased upon removal. Obviously that makes no sense. Tonight, I'm going to throw on my stock intake and no wedge. I'll give it enough time that it feels normal, and then add the wedge back on. It will be interesting to see if any gains are more pronounced with the stock intake versus the Vararam intake which is pretty good all by itself. Yes I know there was supposed to be some dyno pulls from me, but timing hasn't worked out so far. If things sync up and the stock intake is still on then that may be the setup that gets compared. At this point I'm a bit discouraged by the response others have had to those that have provided data. I'm really not excited about spending a couple hundred bucks only to post data and it be completely discounted. Anyway more to come with the stock intake impressions. __________________ She is only memory now.

08-22-2012, 10:20 PM	#1380
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	Mine came in (thx J!). Okay thicker part at the top, and just tighten it to snug? Gasket goes between the wedge and the TB or the wedge and the intake? __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

08-22-2012, 10:30 PM	#1382
Iwantone2 Voice Of The Voiceless Drives: CGM 1SS RS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: OC Cali Posts: 9,617 View My Garage	Gasket goes between TB and Wedge __________________

08-22-2012, 10:30 PM	#1381
Higgs Boson Perpetual Order Drives: indeed Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 1,277	wedge/tb

08-22-2012, 10:41 PM	#1383
2SSRSinBama Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Camaro CGM Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: "The Shoals" Alabama Posts: 767	mine arrives tomorrow __________________ 2010 Camaro SS L99... has a few mods