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MightymouseSS · 08-02-2014, 04:20 AM

Could've been worse. Glad you got it figured out hopefully theres nothing else damaged. What springs were those btw?

ArmyEOD17 · 08-02-2014, 04:51 AM

Yeah were they stock springs or aftermarket?

samtheman32 · 08-02-2014, 07:31 AM

They were PRC .675 springs that came with the cam kit. Thanks guys. I hope there's no further damage either. I'm going to have to trailer it up to San Antonio to have lethal check it out.

thahemp · 08-02-2014, 09:52 AM

Hey the valves are still in the locks... you dodged a bullet. New springs are easy.

samtheman32 · 08-02-2014, 01:22 PM

How does this one look?

MightymouseSS · 08-02-2014, 02:23 PM

Id go ahead and replace all the springs your already there man might as well know you have a fresh set. You might have gotten a defective set to start with why take the risk of this happening again.

RobertRS · 08-02-2014, 02:52 PM

I would be leery of installing the same brand springs for sure.

LSX Camaro · 08-02-2014, 03:37 PM

FWIW a simple back pressure test will determine if a cat is plugged or not. I know that's not your problem but for anyone else trying to diagnose a similar issue this will take away the guesswork.
I would go with BTR Brian Tooley Racing valve springs.

thahemp · 08-02-2014, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSX Camaro

FWIW a simple back pressure test will determine if a cat is plugged or not. I know that's not your problem but for anyone else trying to diagnose a similar issue this will take away the guesswork.
I would go with BTR Brian Tooley Racing valve springs.

Yes.

1977and2010 · 08-02-2014, 05:05 PM

I would also take the head off and make sure the valves didn't touch the pistons. These valves aren't very strong. I had the same issue as you and thought I could just replace the springs. Well that part ( replacing the springs) was easy. Went for a test drive and about a half mile out the intake valve head snapped off side ways into the intake port and ruined that head and piston and also sent shrapnel across the engine and messed up that piston and head. That was a hell of a hard lesson to learn from. Good luck

LSX Camaro · 08-02-2014, 06:14 PM

You could use a bore scope to look into the cylinders and inspect the pistons for any damage.

samtheman32 · 08-02-2014, 06:32 PM

Thanks guys. I'm giving lethal a call to have them inspect for further damage. I hope it's just the springs. I am replacing the whole set.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSX Camaro

FWIW a simple back pressure test will determine if a cat is plugged or not. I know that's not your problem but for anyone else trying to diagnose a similar issue this will take away the guesswork.
I would go with BTR Brian Tooley Racing valve springs.

Which ones specifically? Anyone know any other springs that could hold up to this cam?

Matt_ZL1 · 08-02-2014, 07:09 PM

Coil bind may have caused that.

08-02-2014, 04:20 AM	#29
MightymouseSS Drives: 2011 LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: el paso tx Posts: 547	Could've been worse. Glad you got it figured out hopefully theres nothing else damaged. What springs were those btw? __________________ Vararam Stainless Works Headers Vmax TB SLP loudmouth 2 Nightfury Cam Mike Norris CC Tuned by Southwest Speed

08-02-2014, 04:51 AM	#30
ArmyEOD17 Drives: 2013 2LT RS Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 88	Yeah were they stock springs or aftermarket? __________________

08-02-2014, 07:31 AM	#31
samtheman32 Drives: 2010 2SS M6 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 115	They were PRC .675 springs that came with the cam kit. Thanks guys. I hope there's no further damage either. I'm going to have to trailer it up to San Antonio to have lethal check it out. __________________ TSP 231/236 cam, Kooks longtube headers w/ hi-flow cats + cat-back, Roto-Fab CAI YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/svtheman95

08-02-2014, 09:52 AM	#32
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	Hey the valves are still in the locks... you dodged a bullet. New springs are easy. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

08-02-2014, 01:22 PM	#33
samtheman32 Drives: 2010 2SS M6 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 115	How does this one look? Attached Images __________________ TSP 231/236 cam, Kooks longtube headers w/ hi-flow cats + cat-back, Roto-Fab CAI YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/svtheman95

08-02-2014, 02:23 PM	#34
MightymouseSS Drives: 2011 LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: el paso tx Posts: 547	Id go ahead and replace all the springs your already there man might as well know you have a fresh set. You might have gotten a defective set to start with why take the risk of this happening again. __________________ Vararam Stainless Works Headers Vmax TB SLP loudmouth 2 Nightfury Cam Mike Norris CC Tuned by Southwest Speed

08-02-2014, 02:52 PM	#35
RobertRS Drives: 2014 2SS L99 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Corpus Christi Texas Posts: 1,320	I would be leery of installing the same brand springs for sure.

08-02-2014, 03:37 PM	#36
LSX Camaro Master ASE, GM, LSX Tech. Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,034	FWIW a simple back pressure test will determine if a cat is plugged or not. I know that's not your problem but for anyone else trying to diagnose a similar issue this will take away the guesswork. I would go with BTR Brian Tooley Racing valve springs. __________________ 2010 2SSRS A6, Custom Pat G. Cam, WCCH Cylinder Heads, Kooks Headers/Exhaust, BTR Valvetrain, Fluidampr 25% UDP, All Engine ARP bolts, Flex-a-lite radiator/Trans cooler, Yank converter, PFADT Suspension, ADM Race Intake/Scoop, Torq tow hook, CFD auto shifter, Dynojet AFR gauge, Aeroforce scan gauge, Brake Performance rotors/pads Prothane bushings, ZL1 wheels, spoiler, Z/28 wickerbill, 1LE Aero/Suspension Package, Anderson Composites COPO Carbon Fiber Hood, LED lighting, Elite Catch Can, Improved Racing oil pan baffle, crank scraper, windage tray 480 RWHP 452 RWTQ + Nitrous Express 150 Shot

08-02-2014, 05:05 PM	#38
1977and2010 Tampa Gulf Coast Family Drives: 1977 Z28, 2SSRS 2010 M6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dunedin FL Posts: 810	I would also take the head off and make sure the valves didn't touch the pistons. These valves aren't very strong. I had the same issue as you and thought I could just replace the springs. Well that part ( replacing the springs) was easy. Went for a test drive and about a half mile out the intake valve head snapped off side ways into the intake port and ruined that head and piston and also sent shrapnel across the engine and messed up that piston and head. That was a hell of a hard lesson to learn from. Good luck __________________

08-02-2014, 06:14 PM	#39
LSX Camaro Master ASE, GM, LSX Tech. Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,034	You could use a bore scope to look into the cylinders and inspect the pistons for any damage. __________________ 2010 2SSRS A6, Custom Pat G. Cam, WCCH Cylinder Heads, Kooks Headers/Exhaust, BTR Valvetrain, Fluidampr 25% UDP, All Engine ARP bolts, Flex-a-lite radiator/Trans cooler, Yank converter, PFADT Suspension, ADM Race Intake/Scoop, Torq tow hook, CFD auto shifter, Dynojet AFR gauge, Aeroforce scan gauge, Brake Performance rotors/pads Prothane bushings, ZL1 wheels, spoiler, Z/28 wickerbill, 1LE Aero/Suspension Package, Anderson Composites COPO Carbon Fiber Hood, LED lighting, Elite Catch Can, Improved Racing oil pan baffle, crank scraper, windage tray 480 RWHP 452 RWTQ + Nitrous Express 150 Shot

08-02-2014, 07:09 PM	#41
Matt_ZL1 Drives: ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: FL Posts: 83	Coil bind may have caused that.