07-02-2012, 04:11 PM | #1051 |
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07-02-2012, 08:45 PM | #1053 | |
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I got a new clutch, pressure plate, flywheel and throw out bearing all replaced under warranty on my modified car that was making an extra hundred hp. All I did was call the shop that did the work on my car and ask who do I talk to at my local dealership to get it fixed. Life is too short to keep a supercharged ZL1 Camaro stock.
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07-03-2012, 09:08 AM | #1054 | |
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I would really like for GM to at least shorten the acceleration gap. I'm pleased that ZL1, with a +200-lb., +80-hp disadvantage can more than keep up at nearly all the tracks that's been reported by the major magazines, but still think it would be nice for GM to bump the power, at least another 40-60. We're probably only talking 2-4 psi, but I understand the limitations in the rest of the powertrain, too. Considering it seems the GT500, for the most part, requires several more grand to stay competitive around a track, I think a PP would be something many owners would jump in to.
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07-03-2012, 09:24 AM | #1055 |
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^I agree; But not for anything, if Ford can offer the power increase at the 56k base and without the gass guzzler tax, then it begs the question of why Chevrolet isn't working on offering a package on the Camaro to compete with Ford. We're already paying a premium on these cars, and to date the chevy lacks some options like recaros, a track package (although it would be redundant on the zl1) and a couple of other goodies. I am desiring more forward aggression with the ZL1.
Honestly, I would rather see more power and a bit less weight out of the ZL1. It made the foray to this arena, so the ZL1 should try to compete with Ford in acceleration IMO.
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07-03-2012, 09:31 AM | #1056 | |
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07-03-2012, 09:41 AM | #1057 |
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Would a stage 2 negate the road course ability of the car. Seems heat soak is a problem already for one of the vendors. A ZL1 PP pack may need alot more than tune and pulley and CAI. Looks like major cooling upgrades may be needed (heat exchanger/intercooler, pump, radiator, TSTAT, tune to turn it all on earlier) and possible a remap of PTM software and MRC 3 to account for 80-90 more horse plus they have to make money and account for warranty issues that arrise. For a dealer to install all of those parts and the cost of the above this stage 2 to be done right will be 8-10k imop. Thoughts?
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07-03-2012, 10:44 AM | #1058 |
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GT500 Brake Fade = ZL1 runs 11's all day stock
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The ZL1 was impressive out of the gate. I'm crossing my fingers for some form of ZL1 improvement before the 5th gen bows out. Power would be nice to close the gap, but I'm sure there could be other areas improved as well such as Recaros, suspension tuning, options, aero, etc. I’m hoping given the performance of the GT500 they have a few tricks up their sleeves for 2014 or 2015. Perhaps post C7 release the ceiling will be raised for power. Perhaps feedback from real-world use will provide some insight into what can be improved. Either way the car is great, but there is always room for improvement IMO. That’s the nature of competition – it pushes everyone beyond what they thought was necessary or possible.
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07-05-2012, 01:43 AM | #1061 | |
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If GM and Ford wanted to compete with the GTR, they would have done so, but that is not the traditional market they are after. I think you should have left the Z06 and the ZR1 out of the equation since GM is not competing within it's own ranks,Though there is the possibility of cannibalizing some sales, but not enough to have a dramatic impact.
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