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LOWDOWN · 07-09-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

They can save money by pulling out all the nonessential electronic crap that I will be too busy having fun to use. I don't need navigation, heated seats, electrically adjusted seats, etc.

That's where the "permutations/combinations" come in...

Options...a car manufacturer's second best friend...right after "buyers".

2cnd chance · 07-09-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

They can save money by pulling out all the nonessential electronic crap that I will be too busy having fun to use. I don't need navigation, heated seats, electrically adjusted seats, etc.

Exactly! I'll take a BA stereo for when I want to listen to something other than the LS7 sing.

Wouldn't Recaros save weight as well?

2cnd chance · 07-09-2012, 07:16 PM

In the Corvette is there a difference in the rear diff between the base, GS, Z06 and ZR1?

PYROLYSIS · 07-09-2012, 07:34 PM

I know it's been said before but it bears repeating. How can they not make a 5th gen Z28? Why make arguably one of the most successful Camaro generations the only without a Z28? All the pieces are in place. All engineering challenges and bean counting considered, the pros far outweigh the cons. There is no excuse, not even weight, that is enough to keep many Camaro enthusiasts from their dream.

2cnd chance · 07-09-2012, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

I know it's been said before but it bears repeating. How can they not make a 5th gen Z28? Why make arguably one of the most successful Camaro generations the only without a Z28? All the pieces are in place. All engineering challenges and bean counting considered, the pros far outweigh the cons. There is no excuse, not even weight, that is enough to keep many Camaro enthusiasts from their dream.

Why not? That's why we believe it has to happen.

Fightinfire921 · 07-09-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

I know it's been said before but it bears repeating. How can they not make a 5th gen Z28? Why make arguably one of the most successful Camaro generations the only without a Z28? All the pieces are in place. All engineering challenges and bean counting considered, the pros far outweigh the cons. There is no excuse, not even weight, that is enough to keep many Camaro enthusiasts from their dream.

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Why not? That's why we believe it has to happen.

Patience...........

Bhobbs · 07-09-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

That's where the "permutations/combinations" come in...

Options...a car manufacturer's second best friend...right after "buyers".

I don't mind options if that's what you want but starting out basic would be smart, if they can.

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Exactly! I'll take a BA stereo for when I want to listen to something other than the LS7 sing.

Wouldn't Recaros save weight as well?

My Chevelle didn't have a working radio so I got used to listening to the engine and actually like it now.

I think the Recaro's do save weight but I don't know for sure.

OldScoolCamaro · 07-09-2012, 10:54 PM

The ZL1 is geared for road racing, on long straights and open courses. At speed it flies like the wind. Chevy shuts down the fuel and RPM down too soon on it. It can manage a short course if one keeps the R's way up in the bends to step out because of the weight and underpower of the the LSA. Decidedly its not enough to be a convinced winner hands down to the Ford Mustang in all catagories. Ultimately an increase in the trans gearing, final drive ratio and a LS power plant increment will be the deciding factor in where we are heading.

Bhobbs · 07-10-2012, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

The ZL1 is geared for road racing, on long straights and open courses. At speed it flies like the wind. Chevy shuts down the fuel and RPM down too soon on it. It can manage a short course if one keeps the R's way up in the bends to step out because of the weight and underpower of the the LSA. Decidedly its not enough to be a convinced winner hands down to the Ford Mustang in all catagories. Ultimately an increase in the trans gearing, final drive ratio and a LS power plant increment will be the deciding factor in where we are heading.

So you think Chevy building the ZL1 was a mistake or building it the way they did was a mistake?

Bad@ssCamaro · 07-10-2012, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Exactly! I'll take a BA stereo for when I want to listen to something other than the LS7 sing.

Wouldn't Recaros save weight as well?

Little to none

Bhobbs · 07-10-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

Little to none

I thought I saw on here that it would be a decent weight saving.

rmyers · 07-10-2012, 10:26 AM

Honest question.....had the current ZL1 been badged a Z/28...would that have satisfied the demands of most people waiting on the Z/28? Think before you answer and please be objective in your response.

2cnd chance · 07-10-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rmyers

Honest question.....had the current ZL1 been badged a Z/28...would that have satisfied the demands of most people waiting on the Z/28? Think before you answer and please be objective in your response.

This has been discussed many times in the Z28 threads and the simple answer is NO!

The ZL1 as is was not built in the spirit of the Z28. This is obviously why GM changed its name from Z28 to ZL1. Think of the Z28 as a Z06 and the ZL1 as a ZR1.

Bhobbs · 07-10-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

This has been discussed many times in the Z28 threads and the simple answer is NO!

The ZL1 as is was not built in the spirit of the Z28. This is obviously why GM changed its name from Z28 to ZL1. Think of the Z28 as a Z06 and the ZL1 as a ZR1.

That sums up my opinion pretty well.

It would be interesting to see how an LS7 Z28 would fair against the ZL1 on a track. Would it be completely outclassed or would it be similar to the Z06 Carbon vs the ZR1 where the Z06 was almost if not just as fast.

07-09-2012, 07:34 PM	#1684
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	I know it's been said before but it bears repeating. How can they not make a 5th gen Z28? Why make arguably one of the most successful Camaro generations the only without a Z28? All the pieces are in place. All engineering challenges and bean counting considered, the pros far outweigh the cons. There is no excuse, not even weight, that is enough to keep many Camaro enthusiasts from their dream. __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

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OldScoolCamaro Drives: Camaro's, always have, always will. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Home of the brave Posts: 4,851	The ZL1 is geared for road racing, on long straights and open courses. At speed it flies like the wind. Chevy shuts down the fuel and RPM down too soon on it. It can manage a short course if one keeps the R's way up in the bends to step out because of the weight and underpower of the the LSA. Decidedly its not enough to be a convinced winner hands down to the Ford Mustang in all catagories. Ultimately an increase in the trans gearing, final drive ratio and a LS power plant increment will be the deciding factor in where we are heading. __________________ In Scott We Trust...all others must show proof.

07-10-2012, 10:26 AM	#1692
rmyers Drives: Both American Made Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 781	Honest question.....had the current ZL1 been badged a Z/28...would that have satisfied the demands of most people waiting on the Z/28? Think before you answer and please be objective in your response. __________________ 2012 ZL1 #213 M6 Black on Black 2013 ZL1 #2638 Convertible Auto 2010 Chevrolet Suburban 2011 GMC Seirra HD Denali

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