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jameslk55 · 10-18-2012, 07:01 PM

10/18/12
The problem: suspension noises (clunking) and unsettling ride quality (very bumpy) after installation of Pedders springs and Street I kit at T&T Performance. Bushing timing was performed at T&T and alignment at Tire World.

Update: 11/1/12
One end of the coil wrap on rear driver side spring was not fully on and put back into place. Bush timing performed again: bolts/nuts were loosened while on the lift, car driven around the lot (I think the car was bounced up and down the first time), and then everything was tightened while on the lift. It was not an alignment lift-not sure if that mattered. I provided print-outs of bush timing instructions both times. The suspension noise seems to have gone away but the ride still seems very firm. Unfortunately, I had to pay for another alignment because the bushings were re-timed. I'm not sure if the the handling/ride quality could be better than what it is now; however, what the handling/ride quality now is much better than what it was when I left the shop the first time. I'll let it settle and see how it goes. It feels pretty sensitive to any tiny bump in the road.

Before:

After (1st bush timing and alignment):

After (2nd bush timing and alignment)

Random pictures while bolts/nuts were tightened.

Getting gas afterwards.

JusticePete · 10-18-2012, 07:22 PM

Please take a ride height measurements Pedders style.

jameslk55 · 10-18-2012, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Please take a ride height measurements Pedders style.

I'll do that tomorrow when there's more light. My amateur ride height measurement is 2 finger gap in the back and 3 finger gap in the front. I just took out the Camaro for a spin. Ride quality does seem to have suffered. Seems like I can feel every little bump in the road, even when the road seems smooth. Heard a muffled clunk as I went over small dip. Also thought I heard some pings and pops. The black thingies were installed on the rear springs.

JusticePete · 10-18-2012, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jameslk350

I'll do that tomorrow when there's more light. My amateur ride height measurement is 2 finger gap in the back and 3 finger gap in the front. I just took out the Camaro for a spin. Ride quality does seem to have suffered. Seems like I can feel every little bump in the road, even when the road seems smooth. Heard a muffled clunk as I went over small dip. Maybe I scraped something? Also thought I heard some pings and pops. The black thingies were installed on the rear springs. Currently, girlfriend is not happy that I ruined her stock ride quality.

Let's start with the ride heights.

jameslk55 · 10-18-2012, 09:57 PM

(Picture of car not lowered yet)

lscamaro · 10-18-2012, 10:09 PM

You can definitely tell your car was lowered. Just look at the pictures you provided. The wheel gap is reduced by quite a bit.

jameslk55 · 10-19-2012, 07:14 AM

My alignment sheet if that helps. Will work on measuring the new ride heights

jeremywes · 10-19-2012, 08:07 AM

Looks good man! I bet it will settle in a little. Pete will tell you right.

JusticePete · 10-19-2012, 08:40 AM

There is nothing in the alignment that is an issue. Please PM you mobile to me.

ROD_SS · 10-19-2012, 10:23 AM

Give it time to settle

Rangore · 10-19-2012, 10:52 AM

Looks lower to me...very noticeable in the difference.

JusticePete · 10-19-2012, 10:58 AM

My goal is that James is pleased with every detail of his 5th Gen which is his goal as well. Working together we'll accomplish exactly that.

chozn4service · 10-19-2012, 11:28 AM

I'm so glad that I had some coversations with Pete on the Pedder springs. I ended up going to Raymond's, a local shop here in West Indy and they replaced my Eibachs with the Pedder's and man what a difference. I mean bumps that I went over and had familiarization with felt so much smoother and the car had a much better ride and feel over them. I even noticed that my ride height was different with the Pedder's in that my rear end seemed to be a little lower than with the Eibachs which gave a semi raked look. A look I didn't care for but now, now the car seems to be even front to rear.

I'm loving the look, feel and ride of it all. You pay for what you get and get what you pay for. This was a 100% upgrade and its not like I didn't want to go Pedder the first time around. I was trying to get them back in 2010 when Pete came to Bruce's (Raymond's) for a car show and he had a sale going on and they ran out of the springs, so this was a long time coming.

I was so disappointed in my Eibach that I posted on their pages on facebook of my displeasure with their springs coming out of perch and the ride that they ended up refunding me my full purchase price on the springs so I'm happy about that, the only thing I'm happy about with their springs.

I'm not badmouthing all their (Eibach) products but the ones I had and what they did or did not do for me.

Thanks Pete! Thanks Bruce!

Bruce@raymondsperformance · 10-19-2012, 12:03 PM

Joe your car is looking good on those Pedders springs.

10-18-2012, 07:01 PM	#1
jameslk55 Drives: 2012 2LT/RS, 2005 SLK55 AMG Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Falls Church, VA Posts: 1,163	Pedders springs installed on V6 10/18/12 The problem: suspension noises (clunking) and unsettling ride quality (very bumpy) after installation of Pedders springs and Street I kit at T&T Performance. Bushing timing was performed at T&T and alignment at Tire World. Update: 11/1/12 One end of the coil wrap on rear driver side spring was not fully on and put back into place. Bush timing performed again: bolts/nuts were loosened while on the lift, car driven around the lot (I think the car was bounced up and down the first time), and then everything was tightened while on the lift. It was not an alignment lift-not sure if that mattered. I provided print-outs of bush timing instructions both times. The suspension noise seems to have gone away but the ride still seems very firm. Unfortunately, I had to pay for another alignment because the bushings were re-timed. I'm not sure if the the handling/ride quality could be better than what it is now; however, what the handling/ride quality now is much better than what it was when I left the shop the first time. I'll let it settle and see how it goes. It feels pretty sensitive to any tiny bump in the road. Before: After (1st bush timing and alignment): After (2nd bush timing and alignment) Random pictures while bolts/nuts were tightened. Getting gas afterwards. Last edited by jameslk55; 11-04-2012 at 06:56 PM.

10-18-2012, 09:57 PM	#5
jameslk55 Drives: 2012 2LT/RS, 2005 SLK55 AMG Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Falls Church, VA Posts: 1,163	(Picture of car not lowered yet) Last edited by jameslk55; 10-18-2012 at 11:06 PM.

10-18-2012, 10:09 PM	#6
lscamaro Drives: 2011 CGM Camaro LS A6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 10,305	You can definitely tell your car was lowered. Just look at the pictures you provided. The wheel gap is reduced by quite a bit. __________________ Click Picture for Build Thread

10-19-2012, 10:23 AM	#10
ROD_SS Drives: 2013 1SS Camaro and a truck Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Antonio,TX Posts: 1,081	Give it time to settle __________________ ADM tuned (465 rwhp / 442 torque) Mods- CAI, kooks long tube headers, & ADM stage 2 cam

10-19-2012, 10:52 AM	#11
Rangore Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS 45th Anniversary Ed Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,220	Looks lower to me...very noticeable in the difference. __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS 45th Anniversary Edition - No longer owned: 2010 Camaro 2LT, 1993 Camaro Z-28

10-18-2012, 07:22 PM	#2
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	Please take a ride height measurements Pedders style.

10-19-2012, 07:14 AM	#7
jameslk55 Drives: 2012 2LT/RS, 2005 SLK55 AMG Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Falls Church, VA Posts: 1,163	My alignment sheet if that helps. Will work on measuring the new ride heights

10-19-2012, 08:07 AM	#8
jeremywes Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 504 View My Garage	Looks good man! I bet it will settle in a little. Pete will tell you right.

10-19-2012, 08:40 AM	#9
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	There is nothing in the alignment that is an issue. Please PM you mobile to me.

10-19-2012, 10:58 AM	#12
JusticePete Drives: Camaro Justice Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 20,174	My goal is that James is pleased with every detail of his 5th Gen which is his goal as well. Working together we'll accomplish exactly that.

10-19-2012, 11:28 AM	#13
chozn4service Drives: 2016 SS w/2SS A8 Blue Velvet Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 39.793153,-86.238223 Posts: 3,678 View My Garage	I'm so glad that I had some coversations with Pete on the Pedder springs. I ended up going to Raymond's, a local shop here in West Indy and they replaced my Eibachs with the Pedder's and man what a difference. I mean bumps that I went over and had familiarization with felt so much smoother and the car had a much better ride and feel over them. I even noticed that my ride height was different with the Pedder's in that my rear end seemed to be a little lower than with the Eibachs which gave a semi raked look. A look I didn't care for but now, now the car seems to be even front to rear. I'm loving the look, feel and ride of it all. You pay for what you get and get what you pay for. This was a 100% upgrade and its not like I didn't want to go Pedder the first time around. I was trying to get them back in 2010 when Pete came to Bruce's (Raymond's) for a car show and he had a sale going on and they ran out of the springs, so this was a long time coming. I was so disappointed in my Eibach that I posted on their pages on facebook of my displeasure with their springs coming out of perch and the ride that they ended up refunding me my full purchase price on the springs so I'm happy about that, the only thing I'm happy about with their springs. I'm not badmouthing all their (Eibach) products but the ones I had and what they did or did not do for me. Thanks Pete! Thanks Bruce! Attached Images __________________ Never grow up, it's a trap!

10-19-2012, 12:03 PM	#14
Bruce@raymondsperformance Drives: 2014 Z28 camaro Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 705	Joe your car is looking good on those Pedders springs.