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Lethal Racing · 05-02-2015, 09:03 AM

We have been pretty busy in the shop with several projects. In the past week we we happened to have a few Camaro installs with the Night Fury Cam. Thought some of these results may be interesting to you guys.

The 4 cars were:
2010 Camaro SS - LS3 - 470rwhp/440rwtq
2012 Camaro SS - LS3 - 480rwhp/446rwtq
2014 Camaro SS - L99 - 456rwhp/441rwtq(LS3 Conversion - Locked Converter)
2014 Camaro SS - LS3 - 488rwhp/458rwtq

All 4 of these car have the Latest 3-bolt Night Fury Cam, which are all cut specifically for Lethal Racing by Cam Motion in Baton Rouge, LA. They all have the LR 660 or BTR 660 ValveSpring Kit.

2010 Camaro SS M6

2012 Camaro SS M6

2014 Camaro SS -L99

2014 Camaro SS - LS3

Night Fury Idle Clip

Splat1two · 05-02-2015, 09:07 AM

What other mods were on the 2014 LS3?

USAFS197 · 05-02-2015, 09:08 AM

That's what I want to know, also. I'm still eyeballing this but I'm also considering other cams.

harner · 05-02-2015, 11:16 AM

What are the difference between these cars and the cars hitting 500rwh with a NF cam, aside from weather, altitude, etc?

1989GTA · 05-02-2015, 01:02 PM

Were these cars run on 93 octane gasoline?

Dave@Sturgiscamarorally · 05-02-2015, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harner

What are the difference between these cars and the cars hitting 500rwh with a NF cam, aside from weather, altitude, etc?

My guess is long tubes, no cats, cai, etc... basic bolt ons. No heads. Btr 4 hits about the same. Can be pushed out to 500.

USAFS197 · 05-02-2015, 06:21 PM

I'm going to guess they'll say something along the lines of a ported intake manifold and throttle body to get those numbers.

LethalSS · 05-03-2015, 12:19 AM

The 2014 M6 has a CAI, 2" headers, Cam Package. None of the cars have a ported intake or throttle body. They were all tuned on 93 octane.

When a good intake, CAI or Rotofab, are used with 1 7/8 headers, NGKTR6 or colder plugs, along with a 160 stat then the NF Cam dyno numbers are usually between 470-480 rwhp.

We have seen the Electronic Power Steering Camaro consistently dynoing 7-11 rwhp more.

All the cars where the NF cam hits 500rwhp have ported cylinder heads.

Shawn

harner · 05-03-2015, 09:16 AM

Thanks, Shawn. I appreciate the response!

And here I thought the 500rwh number was "cam only." lol

Still impressive to be true cam only (untouched heads) in the 480 range.

camarosspower · 05-03-2015, 10:44 AM

Hey Shawn my 2010 ss ls3 hit 474 and 444 with nf cam k&n intake kooks 1 7/8 lth ptb UDP and 3.91's. Do you think I should gain more if I swap out my k&n intake with a cai?

Dave@Sturgiscamarorally · 05-03-2015, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harner

Thanks, Shawn. I appreciate the response!

And here I thought the 500rwh number was "cam only." lol

Still impressive to be true cam only (untouched heads) in the 480 range.

I was under the same impression.

Taco Time · 05-04-2015, 10:48 AM

I just need to make a road trip and have you guys retune my car. I'm under 470...

hazy · 05-04-2015, 10:59 AM

Taco - what are the specs of your build? If I recall, you went 416/417/418....

I, too, have a 416 - on the HP dyno in Katy (mustang dyno) I hit 465 a while back. Had them re-tune it, and they didn't get any additional power, but it's much more driveable than it was prior to the new tune.

I know my issue is that the motor is built for boost (relatively low CR at 10-10.5 to 1, blower cam instead of NA) and think that I could pretty easily bust into the 500s with a new NA cam, and bumping up the CR via new pistons, or milling the heads, along with a thinner gasket if necessary...

My only question now is do I want to save for the blower, and just go nuts with the power, or stick with NA, and get a 'rebuild' to get in the low-mid 500s.....cost comes into play big time when looking at the necessary drivetrain/suspension mods required when you start cracking the 600+ mark, which would be blown out of the water if I put a blower on it...

I would think that if yours is a straight NA build, that you should be right at, or just above the 500hp mark...Cam choice may play a big role - if you want to keep decent street manners, you're going to have trouble getting big #'s (550+) is what I've been told

Did you get a 102 intake manifold? Trying to decide if it's worth it right now for me to get one....

Dave@Sturgiscamarorally · 05-04-2015, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hazy

Taco - what are the specs of your build? If I recall, you went 416/417/418....

I, too, have a 416 - on the HP dyno in Katy (mustang dyno) I hit 465 a while back. Had them re-tune it, and they didn't get any additional power, but it's much more driveable than it was prior to the new tune.

I know my issue is that the motor is built for boost (relatively low CR at 10-10.5 to 1, blower cam instead of NA) and think that I could pretty easily bust into the 500s with a new NA cam, and bumping up the CR via new pistons, or milling the heads, along with a thinner gasket if necessary...

My only question now is do I want to save for the blower, and just go nuts with the power, or stick with NA, and get a 'rebuild' to get in the low-mid 500s.....cost comes into play big time when looking at the necessary drivetrain/suspension mods required when you start cracking the 600+ mark, which would be blown out of the water if I put a blower on it...

I would think that if yours is a straight NA build, that you should be right at, or just above the 500hp mark...Cam choice may play a big role - if you want to keep decent street manners, you're going to have trouble getting big #'s (550+) is what I've been told

Did you get a 102 intake manifold? Trying to decide if it's worth it right now for me to get one....

Just wondering what cubic inch you have. I have the 102 with stock cubes. Most of what I have read the 102 is over kill for stock cubes, but I plan on going 420+cubes.

05-02-2015, 09:03 AM	#1
Lethal Racing Drives: LSx Performance Specialist Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 517	4 Night Fury Cam Results - This Week on The Dyno - Vids, Idle Clips!!! We have been pretty busy in the shop with several projects. In the past week we we happened to have a few Camaro installs with the Night Fury Cam. Thought some of these results may be interesting to you guys. The 4 cars were: 2010 Camaro SS - LS3 - 470rwhp/440rwtq 2012 Camaro SS - LS3 - 480rwhp/446rwtq 2014 Camaro SS - L99 - 456rwhp/441rwtq(LS3 Conversion - Locked Converter) 2014 Camaro SS - LS3 - 488rwhp/458rwtq All 4 of these car have the Latest 3-bolt Night Fury Cam, which are all cut specifically for Lethal Racing by Cam Motion in Baton Rouge, LA. They all have the LR 660 or BTR 660 ValveSpring Kit. 2010 Camaro SS M6 2012 Camaro SS M6 2014 Camaro SS -L99 2014 Camaro SS - LS3 Night Fury Idle Clip

05-02-2015, 09:08 AM	#3
USAFS197 Drives: 2018 Audi TT RS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,915	That's what I want to know, also. I'm still eyeballing this but I'm also considering other cams. __________________ 2018 Audi TT ▊RS 2.4X 0-60, 1.6X 60', 120+mph 1/8th, 4.XX 60-130, 150+mph traps on 255/35/18 R888R tires on the street (unprepped). 2019 Audi RS3 About as fast as the TT RS 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Sold 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Sold 2019 Corvette Z06 Sold 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye Widebody Sold

05-02-2015, 11:16 AM	#4
harner Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: NEPA Posts: 450	What are the difference between these cars and the cars hitting 500rwh with a NF cam, aside from weather, altitude, etc? __________________ SOLD! 9/1/2020 2018 ZL1 A10 Hyper Blue - Rotofab CAI, Gibson catback @SurefireDetail OEM ZLE tails/third brake light, Gen5DIY reverse LEDs, front Amber LEDs, SMG laser LED side markers, SMG smoked reflectors 1994 Trans Am LM7/CPT 4L60E/9" 1987 IROC 2006 Silverado

05-02-2015, 06:21 PM	#7
USAFS197 Drives: 2018 Audi TT RS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,915	I'm going to guess they'll say something along the lines of a ported intake manifold and throttle body to get those numbers. __________________ 2018 Audi TT ▊RS 2.4X 0-60, 1.6X 60', 120+mph 1/8th, 4.XX 60-130, 150+mph traps on 255/35/18 R888R tires on the street (unprepped). 2019 Audi RS3 About as fast as the TT RS 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Sold 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Sold 2019 Corvette Z06 Sold 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye Widebody Sold

05-03-2015, 09:16 AM	#9
harner Drives: 2018 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: NEPA Posts: 450	Thanks, Shawn. I appreciate the response! And here I thought the 500rwh number was "cam only." lol Still impressive to be true cam only (untouched heads) in the 480 range. __________________ SOLD! 9/1/2020 2018 ZL1 A10 Hyper Blue - Rotofab CAI, Gibson catback @SurefireDetail OEM ZLE tails/third brake light, Gen5DIY reverse LEDs, front Amber LEDs, SMG laser LED side markers, SMG smoked reflectors 1994 Trans Am LM7/CPT 4L60E/9" 1987 IROC 2006 Silverado

05-02-2015, 09:07 AM	#2
Splat1two Drives: 2015 2ss 1le Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Hampton Roads, VA Posts: 94	What other mods were on the 2014 LS3?

05-02-2015, 01:02 PM	#5
1989GTA Drives: 1989 GTA Trans Am Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Cypress, California Posts: 610	Were these cars run on 93 octane gasoline?

05-03-2015, 12:19 AM	#8
LethalSS LR ZLR7 Drives: Inferno Orange ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Carencro Posts: 24	The 2014 M6 has a CAI, 2" headers, Cam Package. None of the cars have a ported intake or throttle body. They were all tuned on 93 octane. When a good intake, CAI or Rotofab, are used with 1 7/8 headers, NGKTR6 or colder plugs, along with a 160 stat then the NF Cam dyno numbers are usually between 470-480 rwhp. We have seen the Electronic Power Steering Camaro consistently dynoing 7-11 rwhp more. All the cars where the NF cam hits 500rwhp have ported cylinder heads. Shawn

05-03-2015, 10:44 AM	#10
camarosspower Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Port Arthur, Tx Posts: 2,383	Hey Shawn my 2010 ss ls3 hit 474 and 444 with nf cam k&n intake kooks 1 7/8 lth ptb UDP and 3.91's. Do you think I should gain more if I swap out my k&n intake with a cai?

05-04-2015, 10:48 AM	#12
Taco Time Drives: 2014 1SS Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Angleton, TX Posts: 1,339 View My Garage	I just need to make a road trip and have you guys retune my car. I'm under 470... __________________ Taco's 2014 SS Mods: 417 Stroker \| CAI \| Bo's PTB \| Kooks LTs \| Flowmaster Outlaw Catback \| Night Fury Cam \| Powerbond UDP \| Apex Catch Can \|PRC Ported Heads \|FAST 102 Intake \|Suspension Crap\| Built by J-Rod.

05-04-2015, 10:59 AM	#13
hazy Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: H-Town Posts: 1,037	Taco - what are the specs of your build? If I recall, you went 416/417/418.... I, too, have a 416 - on the HP dyno in Katy (mustang dyno) I hit 465 a while back. Had them re-tune it, and they didn't get any additional power, but it's much more driveable than it was prior to the new tune. I know my issue is that the motor is built for boost (relatively low CR at 10-10.5 to 1, blower cam instead of NA) and think that I could pretty easily bust into the 500s with a new NA cam, and bumping up the CR via new pistons, or milling the heads, along with a thinner gasket if necessary... My only question now is do I want to save for the blower, and just go nuts with the power, or stick with NA, and get a 'rebuild' to get in the low-mid 500s.....cost comes into play big time when looking at the necessary drivetrain/suspension mods required when you start cracking the 600+ mark, which would be blown out of the water if I put a blower on it... I would think that if yours is a straight NA build, that you should be right at, or just above the 500hp mark...Cam choice may play a big role - if you want to keep decent street manners, you're going to have trouble getting big #'s (550+) is what I've been told Did you get a 102 intake manifold? Trying to decide if it's worth it right now for me to get one....