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right to travel · 06-10-2013, 01:48 PM

a questions i have for this, is there separate calibrations for these? Is it all the same for v6 ss, zl1? how does this interface with the cars safety systems. it appears that the hsa was added as software if the earlier ones didn't have it and the part numbers are the same. hopefully and i am going to assume there is a model specific calibration as i would assume the zl1 auto would be the best to have or assuming this feature will be left off of the z/28 one of those

93B4C · 06-12-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tramtwo

The part will be on backorder soon!

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Cheapest place I found the part (new) is gmpartsdirect. $80 shipped. Thanks to all who fixed this effing fiasco.

Jay5748 · 06-12-2013, 11:59 PM

Ordered mine

PYROLYSIS · 06-14-2013, 09:55 AM

Interesting. I wonder if this affects how the airbags are activated?

SSRS1LE · 06-14-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

Interesting. I wonder if this affects how the airbags are activated?

No effect. Airbags function off impact-sensors mounted behind the front bumper.

Also remember this is a factory GM part, same as 2013 auto Camaro, and 2010-2012 manual and auto Camaros. It will provide the all the same features and functionality as it does in those applications.

ZL1-V · 06-14-2013, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SSRS1LE

No effect. Airbags function off impact-sensors mounted behind the front bumper.

Also remember this is a factory GM part, same as 2013 auto Camaro, and 2010-2012 manual and auto Camaros. It will provide the all the same features and functionality as it does in those applications.

^^^

fgg60 · 06-22-2013, 05:28 AM

Changed mine out last night.... Works like a charm!!!!!! Ding Dong the HSA is DEAD! add that to my already installed "skip Shift Eliminator" and...no more nannies!! WoooHooo!!! I'm a happy camper, I can now drive my standard like it should be!!

Thanks OP for this awesome fix!!!

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BadAndy · 06-22-2013, 11:08 AM

Finished mine just now and I'm much happier!!

Only thing that's a pain in the ass is the two rear screws that hold down the back of the console. Barely got them out but now I'm going to Harbor Freight to get this: http://www.harborfreight.com/8-piece...ver-92630.html so I can reinstall them tight.

2013zl1guy · 06-23-2013, 10:11 AM

I might have to try this. The biggest problem I have with HSA is being inconsistent when it activates. Most of the time I have my wheel turned so I can't see the indicator in the gauges that it activated. I never had an issue stalling as I'm responsive enough to feel the brakes being applied before RPMs dropping.

Can't tell if the inconsistency is because of the way I drive or the car itself. I don't always come to a complete stop, and I believe that is required for it to activate.

LuSe4 · 06-23-2013, 03:27 PM

Is there any reason why I shouldn't buy a used one? Am I off base?

S3XPanther · 06-24-2013, 10:48 PM

Holy tits I just found this thread. Yea buddy!

snymat68 · 06-25-2013, 11:21 PM

I wonder, is there room for both in the console, and would it be possible to leave the old, install the new, and have some sort of switch to switch from one to the other? (like an On/Off for HSA)

I wonder if the computer in the car would tolerate an on-the-fly change like that or if you'd be in CEL hell (or worse?). The switching would be easy enough if the computer didn't have an allergic reaction.

It could be tested by having the car running and unplugging the stock unit and see what happens, then plug it back in and see if the CEL's go away?
Who wants to try it?

ZL1-V · 06-26-2013, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by snymat68

I wonder, is there room for both in the console, and would it be possible to leave the old, install the new, and have some sort of switch to switch from one to the other? (like an On/Off for HSA)

I wonder if the computer in the car would tolerate an on-the-fly change like that or if you'd be in CEL hell (or worse?). The switching would be easy enough if the computer didn't have an allergic reaction.

It could be tested by having the car running and unplugging the stock unit and see what happens, then plug it back in and see if the CEL's go away?
Who wants to try it?

Why would someone even want to do? It is counterproductive! The purpose is to remove it as it is not needed or wanted.

snymat68 · 06-26-2013, 08:23 AM

After engaging HSA then blipping the throttle to 4k+ rpm to reset the torque sensor (as mentioned in another HSA thread), I've found that the brakes actually release as they should, when the should. While I agree, for me, I'd rather have no HSA in the first place, occasionally my wife needs to drive my car for one reason or another. As she doesn't have much experience with a standard (we're working on it), I thought it would be cool to be able to switch the HSA back on for her now that it seems to be working correctly.

06-14-2013, 09:55 AM	#18
PYROLYSIS Remember the Charleston 9 Drives: 2004 KME PREDATOR, 2014 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Summerv1LE SC Posts: 5,381 View My Garage	Interesting. I wonder if this affects how the airbags are activated? __________________ BRING BACK THE B4C POLICE CAMARO! 2002 V-6 5 speed rally red (current camaro) Also driven:1992 Z-28 305 auto Red w/ black stripes (anniversary), 2001 V-6 auto light pewter metallic,1991 RS V-6 auto Black

06-22-2013, 05:28 AM	#21
fgg60 Sweet Annie!! BRM Drives: '13 2SS/RS 1LE BRM NPP CF5 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Bristol, CT Posts: 354 View My Garage	Changed mine out last night.... Works like a charm!!!!!! Ding Dong the HSA is DEAD! add that to my already installed "skip Shift Eliminator" and...no more nannies!! WoooHooo!!! I'm a happy camper, I can now drive my standard like it should be!! Thanks OP for this awesome fix!!! : __________________ FGG60 - (BRM 2SS 1LE) 1 of 70!!

06-23-2013, 03:27 PM	#24
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06-24-2013, 10:48 PM	#25
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06-25-2013, 11:21 PM	#26
snymat68 Drives: 2013 Blue Ray 1LS M6 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,227 View My Garage	I wonder, is there room for both in the console, and would it be possible to leave the old, install the new, and have some sort of switch to switch from one to the other? (like an On/Off for HSA) I wonder if the computer in the car would tolerate an on-the-fly change like that or if you'd be in CEL hell (or worse?). The switching would be easy enough if the computer didn't have an allergic reaction. It could be tested by having the car running and unplugging the stock unit and see what happens, then plug it back in and see if the CEL's go away? Who wants to try it? __________________ Performance Mods Elite Catch Can \| CAI Intake with Scoop & Washer Bottle Relocation \| MRT v2 Axle-Back Exhaust \| MagnaFlow Resonated X-Pipe \| Resonator Delete \| Vmax Ported Throttle Body \| GM Strut Tower Brace \| JDP Tow Hook \| Vitesse Throttle Controller Aesthetic Mods Chrome Peek-A-Boo Door Handles \| Interior Accessories Kit \| OEM RS HIDs w/ 6000k Bulbs & 5000k LED Fogs \| Tail Light, Marker Light, & Turn Signal Tint \| Tru-Sequence Sequential Turn Signals & Brake Lights \| Silver Fade Gill Stripes \| Carbon Fiber Bowties \| Various Chrome/Painted/Carbon Fiber Items

06-10-2013, 01:48 PM	#15
right to travel Drives: 2013 Camaro 1SS 1LE SW Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Newport RI Posts: 835 View My Garage	a questions i have for this, is there separate calibrations for these? Is it all the same for v6 ss, zl1? how does this interface with the cars safety systems. it appears that the hsa was added as software if the earlier ones didn't have it and the part numbers are the same. hopefully and i am going to assume there is a model specific calibration as i would assume the zl1 auto would be the best to have or assuming this feature will be left off of the z/28 one of those

06-12-2013, 11:59 PM	#17
Jay5748 Drives: 2013 rs/ss Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Jersey Posts: 19	Ordered mine

06-22-2013, 11:08 AM	#22
BadAndy Drives: 2013 2SS/RS/1LE Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Irmo, SC Posts: 149	Finished mine just now and I'm much happier!! Only thing that's a pain in the ass is the two rear screws that hold down the back of the console. Barely got them out but now I'm going to Harbor Freight to get this: http://www.harborfreight.com/8-piece...ver-92630.html so I can reinstall them tight.

06-23-2013, 10:11 AM	#23
2013zl1guy Drives: 2013 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 111	I might have to try this. The biggest problem I have with HSA is being inconsistent when it activates. Most of the time I have my wheel turned so I can't see the indicator in the gauges that it activated. I never had an issue stalling as I'm responsive enough to feel the brakes being applied before RPMs dropping. Can't tell if the inconsistency is because of the way I drive or the car itself. I don't always come to a complete stop, and I believe that is required for it to activate.

06-26-2013, 08:23 AM	#28
snymat68 Drives: 2013 Blue Ray 1LS M6 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,227 View My Garage	After engaging HSA then blipping the throttle to 4k+ rpm to reset the torque sensor (as mentioned in another HSA thread), I've found that the brakes actually release as they should, when the should. While I agree, for me, I'd rather have no HSA in the first place, occasionally my wife needs to drive my car for one reason or another. As she doesn't have much experience with a standard (we're working on it), I thought it would be cool to be able to switch the HSA back on for her now that it seems to be working correctly. __________________ Performance Mods Elite Catch Can \| CAI Intake with Scoop & Washer Bottle Relocation \| MRT v2 Axle-Back Exhaust \| MagnaFlow Resonated X-Pipe \| Resonator Delete \| Vmax Ported Throttle Body \| GM Strut Tower Brace \| JDP Tow Hook \| Vitesse Throttle Controller Aesthetic Mods Chrome Peek-A-Boo Door Handles \| Interior Accessories Kit \| OEM RS HIDs w/ 6000k Bulbs & 5000k LED Fogs \| Tail Light, Marker Light, & Turn Signal Tint \| Tru-Sequence Sequential Turn Signals & Brake Lights \| Silver Fade Gill Stripes \| Carbon Fiber Bowties \| Various Chrome/Painted/Carbon Fiber Items