02-18-2011, 07:48 PM | #155 | |
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Well, a maggied camaro has the fastest stock block pass on record...10.19. Out of the top 10 fastest Gen V's 3 out of the top 6 are Maggied cars: http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ist/index.html |
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02-19-2011, 10:14 AM | #156 |
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The LPE car isn't a Pro charger. I belive its still a maggie....so is Pauls....only 1 or 2 Prochargers vs like 10 fast maggies. Not sure where you are getting your info....good work Jamie.
Six maggies, one KB, 2 prochargers, and 1 vortech......in the "top" ten.
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02-19-2011, 12:01 PM | #157 | |
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And, will be interesting to see over the next little while how the balance may shift as more people start using ProChargers, as they make more inroads into the market over time as more people start doing their research before they just throw on a maggie. The fact is there are way more 2010's with Maggies than there are with ProChargers. Simply, because there are a lot of ol'skoolers (like myself) cruising around and moding the 2010 Camaro throwing on the ol'skool roots system. Definately, Magnuson has been around a long time, and have a great product, they deserve their props for that, but that doesn't mean the new guys on the block aren't right there beside them. Personally, I have no skin in the game besides choosing the system I believe, I will be more comfortable with on a "daily" basis, not just horsing around on the track getting a thrill for a few seconds. Regardless, most likely I'll never be able to get into any 10's never mind 9's, but deservingly it's obvious why LPE or LMR would want to have the fastest vehicle regardless of they SC's they're packaging with their staged Camaro systems. Both, vehicles are awesome that's for sure. Congrats to both team for sharing the top rankings. You just proved my point out of 6 Maggies vs 2 Prochargers the Procharger held 1st. place starting in Jan 2010, and until recently is in 2nd. place right behind a Maggie that used a nitrous system to beat the Procharger. So, just because there are more of one system on the circuit doesn't necessarily mean it's any worse or better than the other system, it just means there are more of them in the game and therefore more of them taking championships. Simple mathematics.
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02-19-2011, 09:31 PM | #158 |
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To be honest, it is hard to follow the last page worth of comments. Agreeably, there are many ways to go fast. The reason so many run the Magnuson products is simple they had a huge head start. I mean the Camaro was really a carry over from the G8 and GTO which Magnuson also focussed on. Plus Magnuson had companies like LPE and Calloway doing homework.
The Magnuson blower is merely a TVS2300. They did not invent or engineer the blower they just did a great job making it look good under the hood. In due time you will see super fast Edelbrock cars because it seems like LPE is focussing on them now. Turbos systems - single or twin - they have the potential of holding a few of the top 10 records. but speaking of records there are a million ways of "framing" the record. Stock this or moddd that. While centrifugals may not be the fastest on the street in the first 60 feet - NEVER count them out. They can make 1000 hp in the blink of an eye and a TVS2300 can't. Talk about adding Nitrous - you can do that to the vortech, magnuson or turbo kits too. Adding nitrous to a forced induction car is not really the optimal way. If you have a TVS2300 then you know you can not make 1000hp so you are "stuck" adding Nitrous. In a pure drag race I think the Centrifugals have shown they are the way to go - no holds barred On the street, max power and max driveability comes from Twin turbos with a nod to the Granatelli twins - I say this because they offer the most complete kit and everyone that has the system swears by it If you want the best looking eye candy - shinny Magnusons are hard to beat Just a newbies opinion |
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I was at the autoshow and saw ZR-1 with ProCharger and Camaro's with Magnuson, a matter of fact I saw alot of the 2010 Camaro's that I've seen on this thread, they had a whole floor dedicated to vintage and modern Camaro's and Firebirds. Didn't see any with centri's on them, but the Corvette with the ProCharger was sick. Your point taken, seems like maggies are popular with the Camaro because besides a power added it's definataly a niceer cleaner match. I also agree any serious racer who doesn't want to use another system (nitrous) to get extra power most likely goes with the ProCharger. They' hold "all" the serious racing records, in the 7's. I originally, wanted the TVS2300 system for my vehicle but then when I did serious research I decided on the ProCharger for obvious reasons. Also, I want to do something different than everyone else. Hell no. I could never get rid of my cool sounding, wicked black ceramic coated, air flowing (power gains), so damn cool headers, just to have turbos. When I can have a ProCharger instead.
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Most Detroit desiels I've ever worked on are Turbo and Supercharged. But those also drive some big track vehicles also. So I guess there would be a reason behind the double whammy!
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For those that did not know or remember, I owned Paxton Superchargers for many years and created the Novi-2000. So I am a centrifugal guy to the core. When I say the Maggie is a good investment - that is saying a lot. not that i think my opinion is any better then the next guy but all due respect. I have lived forced induction for 40 years. We sell then all and I have tried to be as unbias as possible and still convey honest opinions - Please see the link above for a walk down my memory road - this is a 25 year old video |
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@Granatalli; Good to read an un-biased honest, experienced opinion.
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I have an update on my build, as of last night I'm making 788 hp and 815 torque. Still tuning...
Relatively speaking, this car is huge in torque. 605 @ 2000 rpm, 770 @ 3500 and 815 @ 4500 rpm. I realize the cubic inches have something to do with it, but.... This TTI/Granatelli twin turbo kit is nothing short of awesome... We are making 2 psi at 1800 to 2000 rpm, and it peaks at just a smidge over 4000 rpm and this is 12 lbs of boost..... Some more tuning will be done today... Updates to follow....Torque right off the line... Comparable to many Maggie builds I've seen...
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I wish I could stroke the engine at the same time to get my 800hp's. but that will have to wait until next year. Cheers dude, have fun, be safe 800hp. is a lot of power.
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Uhm, I'm happy, out of my mind happy with those numbers...
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Are you driving this car daily with the twin disk or using strictly for racing?
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