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jdpickering · 07-25-2008, 02:12 PM

It is said that the SS Camaro with the Manual Transmission will have Launch Control. How will this work? Everything I've seen on launch control is targeted toward Automatics wth pattle Shifters. You put the car in launch mode rev the motor and let off the break. It turns town Traction Control put the computer to allow the car to max out RPM's before shifting and just optimizes the shift points. Well it can't do all this on a Manual because you control the shift points and you control the clutch so what do they mean the SS Manual will have launch control?

av8r · 07-25-2008, 02:21 PM

Ill bet you it will have some cool features. I think the Cobalt SS TC has both launch control and no lift shift.

1973z-man · 07-25-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by av8r

Ill bet you it will have some cool features. I think the Cobalt SS TC has both launch control and no lift shift.

Launch control and no lift shift....sounds like what we used on the drag strip 30+ years ago except it was holding the brake down while mashing the gas peddle with an auto, and speed shifting with a manual.

When speed shifting a manual you do not lift, you nail the clutch fast and yank it hard through the gears. You better be good and you better be fast or you'll be taking your crankshaft home in the trunk. But, if you were good and fast you were just about unbeatable.

Launch control and no lift shift....I like it!!

jmliptak · 07-25-2008, 06:40 PM

Same idea but now done for you with computers, must take some of the fun out doing it well...

*Mindz* · 07-25-2008, 07:00 PM

Powershifting is dangerous, and sounds like a lot of fun while it's under warranty. =P

"Tach it up! Tach it up! Buddy, gonna shut you dooooooooown!"

fastball · 07-25-2008, 07:11 PM

If I remember the way it works on the Cobalt SS, you can hold the gas to the floor in every gear without letting up to shift. When you stomp the clutch, it holds the revs right where they are when you stomp the clutch for a second or two while you shift.

Without it, you'd either bounce the rev limiter, or as 1973z-man said, carry your crankshaft as you walk home.

Craig · 07-25-2008, 07:51 PM

I don't care what it's got so long as it's defeatable.

*CamaroSpike23* · 07-25-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig

I don't care what it's got so long as it's defeatable.

but what if its beneficial to those who dont know how to double clutch?

gunslinger · 07-25-2008, 09:01 PM

I too would will want to be able to defeat it.

I want to drive my car, not have some computer do it for me.

If everyone used this "launch control" how could we ever be expected to learn to to actually launch a high HP car.

Granted it will be great for those impromptu light-to-light races on the street, but for someone trying to "learn" their car, computer nanny's will only hurt them...unless it is defeatable.

Supermans · 07-25-2008, 11:39 PM

Will it be holding the gas and break down at the same time for the auto???

*CamaroSpike23* · 07-26-2008, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gunslinger

I too would will want to be able to defeat it.

I want to drive my car, not have some computer do it for me.

If everyone used this "launch control" how could we ever be expected to learn to to actually launch a high HP car.

Granted it will be great for those impromptu light-to-light races on the street, but for someone trying to "learn" their car, computer nanny's will only hurt them...unless it is defeatable.

cus you dont have to launch at redline if you know what you are doing. too many people just redline the **** out of their cars and dump the clutch. really good way to jack up your drive train. if we can get a full dyno sheet on these cars and see where the tq curve lies, then find the right rpm to dump it at.

o2camaross · 07-26-2008, 08:00 AM

well with any production/stock gen III/IV motor the peak torque should be between 4,000-4,600. I KNOW there is no way with stock tires you can launch it at that rpm and expect anything more than just boiloing the tires. Not to mention hurting the drivetrain. i will start launnching it at 2,000 rpm and be moving up in 200 rpm incriments. im really curious as to how this launch control is supposed to work

stovt001 · 07-26-2008, 03:32 PM

Usually MT, C&D, Edmunds, etc will publish what they found to be the ideal launch revs. With launch control the computer is programmed to hold revs at what GM's engineers found to be ideal launch revs. The feature was pretty well regarded in all reviews I've read of the new Cobalt SS.

*The_Blur* · 07-26-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by o2camaross

well with any production/stock gen III/IV motor the peak torque should be between 4,000-4,600. I KNOW there is no way with stock tires you can launch it at that rpm and expect anything more than just boiloing the tires. Not to mention hurting the drivetrain. i will start launnching it at 2,000 rpm and be moving up in 200 rpm incriments. im really curious as to how this launch control is supposed to work

That's a really great way to test it. Try it at a track to get some time comparisons.

07-25-2008, 02:12 PM	#1
jdpickering Razzi Drives: 99 Monte Carlo Z34 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 122	Camaro SS Launch Control It is said that the SS Camaro with the Manual Transmission will have Launch Control. How will this work? Everything I've seen on launch control is targeted toward Automatics wth pattle Shifters. You put the car in launch mode rev the motor and let off the break. It turns town Traction Control put the computer to allow the car to max out RPM's before shifting and just optimizes the shift points. Well it can't do all this on a Manual because you control the shift points and you control the clutch so what do they mean the SS Manual will have launch control?

07-25-2008, 07:00 PM	#5
Mindz E.B.A.H. Drives: you wild... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In the happy padded room wearing a jacket that makes me hug myself... Posts: 18,421	Powershifting is dangerous, and sounds like a lot of fun while it's under warranty. =P "Tach it up! Tach it up! Buddy, gonna shut you dooooooooown!" __________________ Blue Rush, 2010 SS [Car of the Week 3/22/2010] Traded in on...ZLZBUBB, 2013 ZL1

07-26-2008, 03:32 PM	#13
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	Usually MT, C&D, Edmunds, etc will publish what they found to be the ideal launch revs. With launch control the computer is programmed to hold revs at what GM's engineers found to be ideal launch revs. The feature was pretty well regarded in all reviews I've read of the new Cobalt SS. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

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07-25-2008, 02:21 PM	#2
av8r DV8 Racing founder Drives: Black 2SS RS ETA march 09!!! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Duluth MN Posts: 51	Ill bet you it will have some cool features. I think the Cobalt SS TC has both launch control and no lift shift.

07-25-2008, 06:40 PM	#4
jmliptak Drives: D Join Date: May 2008 Location: D Posts: 373	Same idea but now done for you with computers, must take some of the fun out doing it well...

07-25-2008, 07:11 PM	#6
fastball Banned Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS 6MT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 4,372	If I remember the way it works on the Cobalt SS, you can hold the gas to the floor in every gear without letting up to shift. When you stomp the clutch, it holds the revs right where they are when you stomp the clutch for a second or two while you shift. Without it, you'd either bounce the rev limiter, or as 1973z-man said, carry your crankshaft as you walk home.

07-25-2008, 07:51 PM	#7
Craig Drives: ‘23 SS1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 289	I don't care what it's got so long as it's defeatable.

07-25-2008, 09:01 PM	#9
gunslinger Drives: 1998 Z28 M6 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lake Forest, CA Posts: 254	I too would will want to be able to defeat it. I want to drive my car, not have some computer do it for me. If everyone used this "launch control" how could we ever be expected to learn to to actually launch a high HP car. Granted it will be great for those impromptu light-to-light races on the street, but for someone trying to "learn" their car, computer nanny's will only hurt them...unless it is defeatable.

07-25-2008, 11:39 PM	#10
Supermans Camaro & Stang Enthusiast Drives: 2011 Mustang 5.0 in Kona Blue Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 4,752 View My Garage	Will it be holding the gas and break down at the same time for the auto???

07-26-2008, 08:00 AM	#12
o2camaross Drives: 2010 2SS/RS & 04 silvy Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Driving Posts: 362	well with any production/stock gen III/IV motor the peak torque should be between 4,000-4,600. I KNOW there is no way with stock tires you can launch it at that rpm and expect anything more than just boiloing the tires. Not to mention hurting the drivetrain. i will start launnching it at 2,000 rpm and be moving up in 200 rpm incriments. im really curious as to how this launch control is supposed to work