Chrysler 300 SRT8 vs Camaro SS

[chappy48]

Originally Posted by Ninjak

Hard to say. The 300 looks big and slow, but it is not. I seen first hand a Srt300 at PBIS(Marosso) pulling 12.7 with a intake, tune, and cat backs. Was a good driver pulling consistant 60ft times, and ET's. The slowest he ran that night was a 13.0.

So I would say it depends on the driver stock to stock.

An auto Camaro with intake, headers, catback and tune ran a 12.47 @ 112mph. So it looks like the Camaro is slightly faster, even the auto, given equal mods. Still, it's close.

[Ninjak]

Originally Posted by chappy48

An auto Camaro with intake, headers, catback and tune ran a 12.47 @ 112mph. So it looks like the Camaro is slightly faster, even the auto.

Headers can make quite a difference here..The SRT300 I saw had the basic add-ons. Headers put's you into a different mod category for me.

[chappy48]

Originally Posted by Ninjak

Headers can make quite a difference here..The SRT300 I saw had the basic add-ons. Headers put's you into a different mod category for me.

True, but the only difference between the two, at least based on what was put out, is the headers. So, it's still pretty close. Don't know how much a difference headers on an srt8 make, but it would have to be .3 - .5 seconds to match the camaro.

And in my opinion, headers are a bolt on mod, since they...bolt directly on It's still part of the exhaust system like the cat-back. True you need a tune, but that's true of most parts if you want to optimize the gain they give you.

[1bad65]

Chappy, I think the SRT8 Challengers come with headers from the factory. I guess the 300C SRTs didnt.

[chappy48]

Really?? I didn't know that. Full lenth headers or just shorties? Can anyone verify this?

[Stew]

I think just the 6 speeds have the headers, same for the R/T I believe, not 100% on that though.

[1bad65]

The Challenger SRT8s come with stock headers. You can ask around on any Challenger forum. And it's not just the 6-speeds either.

[REEFBLUE93]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

The Challenger SRT8s come with stock headers. You can ask around on any Challenger forum. And it's not just the 6-speeds either.

Ford did that with the Fox Body Mustangs too. They all came with factory headers.

[chappy48]

So is there much gain going with full lenth aftermarket headers for the SRT8??

[Ninjak]

Originally Posted by chappy48

So is there much gain going with full lenth aftermarket headers for the SRT8??

Not sure.

From a Mustang POV, the stock headers on a 05~09 flow very well. So there are really no gains going to a aftermarket shorties piece. For us, going to full lengths can make quite a difference.

Boosted apps can loose some PSI going to LT's so some believe you should stay with shorties. I did a test on my car, when I was doing the tune, just to see. I did not gain from shorties aftermarket compared to my stock ones.

Did not get a chance to see about LT's, but I know a few people who have N/A apps and have said LT's made quite a difference.

[1stGM]

Originally Posted by chappy48

Really?? I didn't know that. Full lenth headers or just shorties? Can anyone verify this?

All SRT8 vehicles come with a shorty header. Adding long tubes has proven to add 5-7RWHP. Not much to be had with long tubes on an SRT8 with bolt ons.

I got rid of my 5.7 6 speed R/T with a Procharger just last month in favor of my new SS. I know quite a bit about the Dodges.

[1bad65]

Originally Posted by Ninjak

Did not get a chance to see about LT's, but I know a few people who have N/A apps and have said LT's made quite a difference.

I can attest to that.

[Carlos Garza]

Originally Posted by 1bad65

Chappy, I think the SRT8 Challengers come with headers from the factory. I guess the 300C SRTs didnt.

all SRT8 come with the exact same engine (6.1L HEMI) and short headers. All SRT8 cars use the LX chassie.