Do I want a Hurst short throw? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

John Deere Boy · 07-09-2010, 05:52 PM

Finally putting my order together: Yellow 2SS/RS with a manual trans. Been waiting a year for HUD

My question: I've driven stick trucks and semis all my life but never a muscle car, so i don't know what a "short throw" shifter feels like. Is the shift pattern just closer together as the name implies? If that's the case, should i go with the standard shifter in the camaro since i'm used to trucks with long "throws"?

caverman · 07-09-2010, 06:11 PM

Yes....you'll want some kind of short throw shifter. The Hurst may or may not be the right one for you.

Unless you just have to have it from the factory I wouldn't order it from GM. You can add it as an aftermarket cheaper and you won't necessarily have to wait. Things may have changed but those that tried to order a 2010 with a Hurst got their build put off because they weren't actually putting them in at GM. Everyone typically cancelled their order for the Hurst in order to get their car. Things may have changed but I haven't heard of anyone taking possession of a Camaro with a factory installed Hurst.

So....do your research on which short thorw to buy. There is Hurst, MGW, Barton, MTI. I had a Hurst and didn't like it. I went with MGW and the Race Knob and LOVE it. Alot of people like the Hurst though. There are alot of people that like the Barton as well.

Again....just keep researching but I wouldn't recommend ordering through GM right now.

To me the short throw shifter is a MUST HAVE and I haven't heard of anyone that put on a short throw that went back to the factory shifter.

This isn't going to be like shifting a truck so I wouldn't compare that at all. Your elbow is more than likely going to be on the center console.....unlike your truck.

tjbusa · 07-09-2010, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caverman

Yes....you'll want some kind of short throw shifter. The Hurst may or may not be the right one for you.

Unless you just have to have it from the factory I wouldn't order it from GM. You can add it as an aftermarket cheaper and you won't necessarily have to wait. Things may have changed but those that tried to order a 2010 with a Hurst got their build put off because they weren't actually putting them in at GM. Everyone typically cancelled their order for the Hurst in order to get their car. Things may have changed but I haven't heard of anyone taking possession of a Camaro with a factory installed Hurst.

So....do your research on which short thorw to buy. There is Hurst, MGW, Barton, MTI. I had a Hurst and didn't like it. I went with MGW and the Race Knob and LOVE it. Alot of people like the Hurst though. There are alot of people that like the Barton as well.

Again....just keep researching but I wouldn't recommend ordering through GM right now.

To me the short throw shifter is a MUST HAVE and I haven't heard of anyone that put on a short throw that went back to the factory shifter.

This isn't going to be like shifting a truck so I wouldn't compare that at all. Your elbow is more than likely going to be on the center console.....unlike your truck.

all true

John Deere Boy · 07-09-2010, 06:17 PM

Thanks that's very good info. I'll definitely NOT put it on my order, and get an aftermarket later if i want.

SSOOCH · 07-09-2010, 06:38 PM

YES!

Thrillz · 07-09-2010, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caverman

Yes....you'll want some kind of short throw shifter. The Hurst may or may not be the right one for you.

Unless you just have to have it from the factory I wouldn't order it from GM. You can add it as an aftermarket cheaper and you won't necessarily have to wait. Things may have changed but those that tried to order a 2010 with a Hurst got their build put off because they weren't actually putting them in at GM. Everyone typically cancelled their order for the Hurst in order to get their car. Things may have changed but I haven't heard of anyone taking possession of a Camaro with a factory installed Hurst.

So....do your research on which short thorw to buy. There is Hurst, MGW, Barton, MTI. I had a Hurst and didn't like it. I went with MGW and the Race Knob and LOVE it. Alot of people like the Hurst though. There are alot of people that like the Barton as well.

Again....just keep researching but I wouldn't recommend ordering through GM right now.

To me the short throw shifter is a MUST HAVE and I haven't heard of anyone that put on a short throw that went back to the factory shifter.

This isn't going to be like shifting a truck so I wouldn't compare that at all. Your elbow is more than likely going to be on the center console.....unlike your truck.

Listen to this man he knows what he's talking about. No way i could ever go back to the factory one after having the short throw for several months now.

Number 3 · 07-09-2010, 06:51 PM

Get the Hurst from the factory. Unless Hurst changed their design, the one they deliver to GM has been modified to meet OEM specifications.

FB3 · 07-09-2010, 06:51 PM

You should definitely consider the MGW shifter. Do some searches here to find out why. High quality, no noise, and a total shifter replacement. I just got one and hope to have it installed this week or next week.

Capthowdy · 07-09-2010, 06:53 PM

agree on the MGW...a Real nice piece of craftmenship..a true short throw..

caverman · 07-09-2010, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FB3

You should definitely consider the MGW shifter. Do some searches here to find out why. High quality, no noise, and a total shifter replacement. I just got one and hope to have it installed this week or next week.

You'll love it! It's ever so slightly tight at first but it was designed that way. Give it about 150 miles to break in. Once you do you'll kick yourself for not getting in the car sooner.

Which knob did you get?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capthowdy

agree on the MGW...a Real nice piece of craftmenship..a true short throw..

x10 for the MGW

jackka · 07-09-2010, 08:22 PM

the Barton short-throw shifter also is very good stuff. and a lot cheaper also.

Nutbutt · 07-09-2010, 08:28 PM

I had the hurst and replaced it with the Barton. Installed the MGW in a few cars. It is a good shifter. The problem I have with it is it is a housing held together by pins and set screws. Great to begin with then loosens as the unit gets broken-in. The GM main structure is cast and the Barton unit that fits in will not change under environmental conditions. IMHO !

lee · 07-09-2010, 08:41 PM

isnt the hurst the one that "clicks" every time you change gears? i wouldnt like it making that noise every time i switch gears

FB3 · 07-09-2010, 08:52 PM

Caverman, I am going to keep the stock shift knob. I was thinking of the round retro ball, but I really like the stock one.

07-09-2010, 05:52 PM	#1
John Deere Boy I bleed green Drives: '11 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Centerville, Indiana Posts: 462 View My Garage	Do I want a Hurst short throw? Finally putting my order together: Yellow 2SS/RS with a manual trans. Been waiting a year for HUD My question: I've driven stick trucks and semis all my life but never a muscle car, so i don't know what a "short throw" shifter feels like. Is the shift pattern just closer together as the name implies? If that's the case, should i go with the standard shifter in the camaro since i'm used to trucks with long "throws"?

07-09-2010, 06:11 PM	#2
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	Yes....you'll want some kind of short throw shifter. The Hurst may or may not be the right one for you. Unless you just have to have it from the factory I wouldn't order it from GM. You can add it as an aftermarket cheaper and you won't necessarily have to wait. Things may have changed but those that tried to order a 2010 with a Hurst got their build put off because they weren't actually putting them in at GM. Everyone typically cancelled their order for the Hurst in order to get their car. Things may have changed but I haven't heard of anyone taking possession of a Camaro with a factory installed Hurst. So....do your research on which short thorw to buy. There is Hurst, MGW, Barton, MTI. I had a Hurst and didn't like it. I went with MGW and the Race Knob and LOVE it. Alot of people like the Hurst though. There are alot of people that like the Barton as well. Again....just keep researching but I wouldn't recommend ordering through GM right now. To me the short throw shifter is a MUST HAVE and I haven't heard of anyone that put on a short throw that went back to the factory shifter. This isn't going to be like shifting a truck so I wouldn't compare that at all. Your elbow is more than likely going to be on the center console.....unlike your truck. __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

07-09-2010, 06:38 PM	#5
SSOOCH Camaro SL,UTs Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS #16429 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jordan, UT Posts: 7,358 View My Garage	YES! __________________

07-09-2010, 06:51 PM	#7
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,170 View My Garage	Get the Hurst from the factory. Unless Hurst changed their design, the one they deliver to GM has been modified to meet OEM specifications. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

07-09-2010, 06:51 PM	#8
FB3 Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS RS LS3, BRM, NPP Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 411	You should definitely consider the MGW shifter. Do some searches here to find out why. High quality, no noise, and a total shifter replacement. I just got one and hope to have it installed this week or next week. __________________ Experience is the best teacher but the tuition is very high.

07-09-2010, 06:17 PM	#4
John Deere Boy I bleed green Drives: '11 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Centerville, Indiana Posts: 462 View My Garage	Thanks that's very good info. I'll definitely NOT put it on my order, and get an aftermarket later if i want.

07-09-2010, 06:53 PM	#9
Capthowdy Drives: 2010 2SS RS IOM Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fort Lauderdale Fl Posts: 1,048	agree on the MGW...a Real nice piece of craftmenship..a true short throw..

07-09-2010, 08:22 PM	#11
jackka Drives: 2011 Black/Black 2LT/RS M6 w/Sroof Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: FT. Rucker, Alabama, the home of Army Aviation! Posts: 200	the Barton short-throw shifter also is very good stuff. and a lot cheaper also.

07-09-2010, 08:28 PM	#12
Nutbutt Drives: 2011 RJT 2LT/RS Convertible Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Massachusetts Posts: 3,381 View My Garage	I had the hurst and replaced it with the Barton. Installed the MGW in a few cars. It is a good shifter. The problem I have with it is it is a housing held together by pins and set screws. Great to begin with then loosens as the unit gets broken-in. The GM main structure is cast and the Barton unit that fits in will not change under environmental conditions. IMHO ! __________________ 1st IPF Supercharged 2011 2LT/RS RJT Convertible

07-09-2010, 08:41 PM	#13
lee Drives: 2010 2ss/rs Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 1,016	isnt the hurst the one that "clicks" every time you change gears? i wouldnt like it making that noise every time i switch gears

07-09-2010, 08:52 PM	#14
FB3 Drives: 2014 Camaro 2SS RS LS3, BRM, NPP Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 411	Caverman, I am going to keep the stock shift knob. I was thinking of the round retro ball, but I really like the stock one. __________________ Experience is the best teacher but the tuition is very high.

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