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sportyb24 · 12-02-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ZL1Power

Here is the link, I could be wrong

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-CHEVY-C...e789e3&vxp=mtr

Yes they are suppose to be black however not with two layers of red paint. if you look at the pix you can see that there is a layer of red then black then red again..

ZL1Power · 12-02-2012, 10:12 PM

You're right, I tought you guys were talking about the base color

ChrisBlair · 12-03-2012, 11:57 AM

I feel this is an interesting point re: your car, but is not a thing that indicates your car was put together from sub-standard or "refurbished" parts

Refurb indicates it was sold new and then refinished to new, or re-manufactured. Your bumper had re-work before sale.

Objectively you are basing your indigantion on the 'fact' that "new bumpers are not supposed to look like this".

Is that a fact or is that your experience? It is possible that new bumpers can very often look like this, although I doubt many ZL-1 owners will volunteer their cars for a test. I suggest looking into just whether or not a new ZL-1 may or may not have had to have a body part re-painted at the factory or at the dealer, and what that legally presents to you.

Respectfully, you are doing a lot of assuming

sportyb24 · 12-03-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

I feel this is an interesting point re: your car, but is not a thing that indicates your car was put together from sub-standard or "refurbished" parts

Refurb indicates it was sold new and then refinished to new, or re-manufactured. Your bumper had re-work before sale.

Objectively you are basing your indigantion on the 'fact' that "new bumpers are not supposed to look like this".

Is that a fact or is that your experience? It is possible that new bumpers can very often look like this, although I doubt many ZL-1 owners will volunteer their cars for a test. I suggest looking into just whether or not a new ZL-1 may or may not have had to have a body part re-painted at the factory or at the dealer, and what that legally presents to you.

Respectfully, you are doing a lot of assuming

Well it's my experience in the body shop world that this isn't common that being said its my car and my assumption .. And this isn't right !!

DCC1464 · 12-03-2012, 01:34 PM

so let me ask this. What is the impact on your car if that part was re-painted cause of some scratches or to correct the color match? does it mean your car is not special anymore ? Did it lose value from a manufacture defect that was correct prior to sell?
Just wondering what the big deal is here? And I really hope you don't believe that you got a "refurbished" bumper, cause well that would be very ummm..... "tinfoil hat " of you if you really believe that.

Mikes SS · 12-03-2012, 01:51 PM

it was probablt just a paint match issure which was common on the front bumpers. At least is wasn't yellow or blue underneath then that would be cause for speculation.

trewyn15 · 12-03-2012, 01:59 PM

If it was damaged and repainted the dealership, by law, must tell you that, you may have a lawsuit on your hands.

gmgdave · 12-03-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sportyb24

Well it's my experience in the body shop world that this isn't common that being said its my car and my assumption .. And this isn't right !!

Well in your experience you have never seen this is a body shop. Well, my best friend owns a body shop and I there all the time and I can tell you it happens all the time. A bumper gets a run in the paint or the base coat just blows up and the job looks like crap. They then resand, reprep, reprime, repaint and clear coat. So a new part my have another layer of paint. It does happen it is no big deal. Now if you found bondo or some other repair then I could see you getting upset, it looked good when you got it but you went into the finsh......now it is a problem. I do not see it the issue.

htron50 · 12-03-2012, 02:38 PM

If you dipped it to strip it, could you get it down to original black level or was the red color integrated into original?

sportyb24 · 12-03-2012, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DCC1464

so let me ask this. What is the impact on your car if that part was re-painted cause of some scratches or to correct the color match? does it mean your car is not special anymore ? Did it lose value from a manufacture defect that was correct prior to sell?
Just wondering what the big deal is here? And I really hope you don't believe that you got a "refurbished" bumper, cause well that would be very ummm..... "tinfoil hat " of you if you really believe that.

Yeah it's not special anymore.. Lmao dude it's not your car if it were I doubt you wouldn't be pissed .trust me there's more to this then a simple repair .. If you'd read the whole thread you'd see that there is also issues with the back truck lid. So I'm done talking with you I can see your input is condescending..

sportyb24 · 12-03-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gmgdave

Well in your experience you have never seen this is a body shop. Well, my best friend owns a body shop and I there all the time and I can tell you it happens all the time. A bumper gets a run in the paint or the base coat just blows up and the job looks like crap. They then resand, reprep, reprime, repaint and clear coat. So a new part my have another layer of paint. It does happen it is no big deal. Now if you found bondo or some other repair then I could see you getting upset, it looked good when you got it but you went into the finsh......now it is a problem. I do not see it the issue.

Once again if you guys would read the whole thread I wouldn't have to answer you guys individually .. You show me a new bumper with multi coats of paint and primer ..

sportyb24 · 12-03-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by htron50

If you dipped it to strip it, could you get it down to original black level or was the red color integrated into original?

There was multi layer.. Of both.

gmgdave · 12-03-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sportyb24

Once again if you guys would read the whole thread I wouldn't have to answer you guys individually .. You show me a new bumper with multi coats of paint and primer ..

I have read the thread over and over again and I still do not get it. You are saying that GM cannot repaint the front bumper if there was a flaw in the paint? That is wrong; they do it all the time. It is not a used bumper, you need to get over it. It was repainted.....

chozn4service · 12-03-2012, 03:38 PM

I bought a used cover from a SS that was Rally Red and it had severe rock chips on it as well as clear coat peal. My dealership had to take it all the ways down. In fact I thought they said they put some sort of liquid or chemical on it to help remove the layers. Need less to say once they got it where they needed it to be they did some sanding, gel coat, prime, paint and clear coat.

12-03-2012, 11:57 AM	#31
ChrisBlair Buick 455 Fan Drives: 1970 Buick, 2012 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 5,957	I feel this is an interesting point re: your car, but is not a thing that indicates your car was put together from sub-standard or "refurbished" parts Refurb indicates it was sold new and then refinished to new, or re-manufactured. Your bumper had re-work before sale. Objectively you are basing your indigantion on the 'fact' that "new bumpers are not supposed to look like this". Is that a fact or is that your experience? It is possible that new bumpers can very often look like this, although I doubt many ZL-1 owners will volunteer their cars for a test. I suggest looking into just whether or not a new ZL-1 may or may not have had to have a body part re-painted at the factory or at the dealer, and what that legally presents to you. Respectfully, you are doing a lot of assuming __________________

12-03-2012, 01:34 PM	#33
DCC1464 COTW 5/27/13 Drives: '11 S/C SS/RS CGM Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 755 View My Garage	so let me ask this. What is the impact on your car if that part was re-painted cause of some scratches or to correct the color match? does it mean your car is not special anymore ? Did it lose value from a manufacture defect that was correct prior to sell? Just wondering what the big deal is here? And I really hope you don't believe that you got a "refurbished" bumper, cause well that would be very ummm..... "tinfoil hat " of you if you really believe that. __________________ 622RWHP/512FTLBS on 91 octane 2.9l Whipple 4" pulley. Vengance VRSP3 cam. Lots of BMR & AAC. Body work by Gary's Customz. Nic D tuned My build thread

12-03-2012, 01:59 PM	#35
trewyn15 Drives: 2004 Monte Carlo LS Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Janesville, WI Posts: 2,414	If it was damaged and repainted the dealership, by law, must tell you that, you may have a lawsuit on your hands. __________________ 2004 Monte Carlo LS - 1966 AMC Rambler Rebel Classic - 2000 Trans Am WS6

12-03-2012, 03:38 PM	#42
chozn4service Drives: 2016 SS w/2SS A8 Blue Velvet Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: 39.793153,-86.238223 Posts: 3,678 View My Garage	I bought a used cover from a SS that was Rally Red and it had severe rock chips on it as well as clear coat peal. My dealership had to take it all the ways down. In fact I thought they said they put some sort of liquid or chemical on it to help remove the layers. Need less to say once they got it where they needed it to be they did some sanding, gel coat, prime, paint and clear coat. __________________ Never grow up, it's a trap!

12-02-2012, 10:12 PM	#30
ZL1Power Drives: ZL1 AGM 2013 #3266 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Merida, MX Posts: 14	You're right, I tought you guys were talking about the base color

12-03-2012, 01:51 PM	#34
Mikes SS Drives: '10 CGM 2SS/RS 6M Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Central Florida Posts: 1,032 View My Garage	it was probablt just a paint match issure which was common on the front bumpers. At least is wasn't yellow or blue underneath then that would be cause for speculation.

12-03-2012, 02:38 PM	#37
htron50 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Status "Thank You!" Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,498	If you dipped it to strip it, could you get it down to original black level or was the red color integrated into original?