Help me understand the 1LE hype.

[vroomapunk]

Its not hype, apparently they are great performing cars, but for me 3,500 is way too much, as I dont like black wheels. The rest just isnt worth 3,500. Especially when I could spend 3,500 and get better aftermarket suspension parts.

Hell, I could take 3,500, buy a set of rims that I want for 1,500, and still make some really significant suspension upgrades.

Also, is the 1LE only for the manual cars, im shocked im just realizing this if it is? Then that really takes me out of getting it.

[tramtwo]

Originally Posted by Blk-Ice

Nice video! What song and artist was that...killer cruise song?!!!

Dead Confederate – The Rat

[BigBlock69RS]

Originally Posted by vroomapunk

Its not hype, apparently they are great performing cars, but for me 3,500 is way too much, as I dont like black wheels. The rest just isnt worth 3,500. Especially when I could spend 3,500 and get better aftermarket suspension parts.

Hell, I could take 3,500, buy a set of rims that I want for 1,500, and still make some really significant suspension upgrades.

Also, is the 1LE only for the manual cars, im shocked im just realizing this if it is? Then that really takes me out of getting it.

You could always sell the rims and tires for more than you paid for the 1le package and then buy the rims you wanted.

And no for 3500 you could not begin to touch the mods that have been done with aftermarket parts. Heck just the close ratio trans would be more. Yet alone the enitre parts list. Yes you can buy better parts but for a lot more than 3500.

For 3500 you get a track ready wel balanced car ready to go.

[Dropspeed]

Originally Posted by vroomapunk

Let me know if Im wrong, but electric power steering is standard on all SS models as of 2013 right?

Yes

Originally Posted by vroomapunk

Its not hype, apparently they are great performing cars, but for me 3,500 is way too much, as I dont like black wheels. The rest just isnt worth 3,500. Especially when I could spend 3,500 and get better aftermarket suspension parts.

Hell, I could take 3,500, buy a set of rims that I want for 1,500, and still make some really significant suspension upgrades.

Also, is the 1LE only for the manual cars, im shocked im just realizing this if it is? Then that really takes me out of getting it.

Yes, only manual as real track cars are not automatics

$3500 too much? Hmmm A quality set of forged wheels will set you back at least $3500 with tires...The rest of the parts are freebies....If you don't like black there are many members that will pay top dollar for the wheels and tires. ($2K- $2500+ mileage depended)

It is a better car for the track than any SS on aftermarket rims and $2000 worth of suspension work. $2000 would only get you a set of quality aftermarket coil overs installed and aligned.

-Matt

[Dropspeed]

So this thread =

-SS owners not understanding the hype cause they already have an SS.
-1LE owners defending their purchases.

[vroomapunk]

Originally Posted by BigBlock69RS

You could always sell the rims and tires for more than you paid for the 1le package and then buy the rims you wanted.

And no for 3500 you could not begin to touch the mods that have been done with aftermarket parts. Heck just the close ratio trans would be more. Yet alone the enitre parts list. Yes you can buy better parts but for a lot more than 3500.

For 3500 you get a track ready wel balanced car ready to go.

Well I know not the trans, I meant suspension wise. Id want an auto trans anyway. I was just saying this is why its not for me.

Originally Posted by Dropspeed

Yes



Yes, only manual as real track cars are not automatics

$3500 too much? Hmmm A quality set of forged wheels will set you back at least $3500 with tires...The rest of the parts are freebies....If you don't like black there are many members that will pay top dollar for the wheels and tires. ($2K- $2500+ mileage depended)

It is a better car for the track than any SS on aftermarket rims and $2000 worth of suspension work. $2000 would only get you a set of quality aftermarket coil overs installed and aligned.

-Matt

Everyone has their reasons for manual vs auto, and most 1LE's will never be road raced to their true potential.

Its a daily driver, im not going to be pulling 1G on the way to work, I dont need forged wheels, I just need wheels that look good and hopefully weigh less than stock, which isnt hard to find.

I also do all my own work so I dont pay for things to be installed. Mother in law manages Nola Motorsports track so I can get free alignment.

Again, this is just my situation, and my reasons for not getting the 1LE package.

Im not arguing, it is a great package for a lot of people, just not good for me at all.

If I was really into road racing, Id end up replacing a lot of the 1LE suspension parts anyway. The car has a particular market, the OP should understand that.

[gajagfan]

Originally Posted by Dropspeed

So this thread =

-SS owners not understanding the hype cause they already have an SS.
-1LE owners defending their purchases.

I think it comes back to what the engineers said when the package was introduced. The 1LE package is worth it to about 2% of the Camaro buying public. Those SS owners that do not get it woudl not choose the 1LE package if they were buying a new Camaro. To us that want it, it was money in the bank. To those that are happy with the standard car, and it gives them more than what they need, it is not a good purchase.
It is probably the same as the opinion on many options, like BA speakers, sunroofs, or NPP.

[tramtwo]

Originally Posted by gajagfan

I think it comes back to what the engineers said when the package was introduced. The 1LE package is worth it to about 2% of the Camaro buying public. Those SS owners that do not get it woudl not choose the 1LE package if they were buying a new Camaro. To us that want it, it was money in the bank. To those that are happy with the standard car, and it gives them more than what they need, it is not a good purchase.
It is probably the same as the opinion on many options, like BA speakers, sunroofs, or NPP.

Not exactly.... this has been misquoted and misunderstood often. Al said that the 1LE is for "the 2% that want to drive the car to the limit." Surely less than two percent of ALL Camaros see track time.... but maybe that is another thread.

[Jason P]

Originally Posted by Frank in MD

WTF is smexy?

Smexy is that smell when you're done

[olblue75]

Just do a square setup with 275s and 1LE sways, gears and aftermarket bushings an im sure a 2010 SS manual will pace nicely with a 13/14 1LE

[olblue75]

Or 285s sorry

[steveo9043]

I would not trade in my 2012 45th for a 1le. I'd be lucky to get 28k for trade in (which is not bad depreciation at all) but then I would be financing another 12k for the 1LE.

If there was a 1LE when i bought my car and I had the DD I now have (i didn't when I bought the SS) i would have a 1LE. I wasn't DDing a manual car.

I would of got the NPP exhaust and saved $1000 right there not having to buy aftermarket exhaust.

[FJ60]

Originally Posted by sspolo

The "its a great deal" sounds a lot like when people buy stuff they don't need just because "its a great deal." I am still saving for the Camaro (yes it has been a really long time :( ) but when I can finally afford it I will probably not get the 1LE. The only thing I would like would be the rims, other than that everything else would be pointless since I don't track the car.

BTW there aren't many reasons why some people get the 1LE other than because of the great deal thing. Its kind of funny.

Have you driven a 1LE and non-1LE back to back? You don't need to track the car to notice the differences. The transmission and more robust suspension (and for me, labor cost to switch and install) justify most of the cost.

[Meltdownaverted]

Originally Posted by ZL1 Spoked

I'm pretty sure the quarter mile time is the same in the ss and the ss with 1le pack.

My Stock 1LE was exactly and consistently .5 quicker in the 1/4 than my stock SS