01-23-2014, 06:02 PM | #547 | |
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IMO, the Z/28 derived the greatest improvement in lap time with the 305/30/19 Trofeo fitment at the Ring. Those were working at the Ring. All the other Z/28 improvements didn't 'brake' as sweat. The faster you go (more RWHP) the better the Z/28 aero will work and contribute to lower lap times. The hotter the CF brakes get, the better they work. Lighter weight knows no speed limits. Better suspension is no different. I am not saying all the engineering that went into the Z/28 is not as important as the tire size and choice. I am saying that only the LS7 was breathing hard at the Ring and was run at the limit of capability. You know if a well setup 5th Gen Camaro with over 600 RWHP went to the OPTIMA Invitational it just might beat, Porsche 911s, 850 RWHP ProTouring machines, 5th Gen Race cars... Can you imagine what a Z/28 would do with 600 RWHP |
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01-23-2014, 06:06 PM | #549 | |
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01-23-2014, 06:06 PM | #550 | |
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01-23-2014, 06:58 PM | #551 |
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01-23-2014, 07:03 PM | #552 | |
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01-23-2014, 07:08 PM | #553 |
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A no brainer: GM dealers - for those that think the Z/28 is a good value at 75Gs and those wishing to keep their rides unmodded and OEM. Aftermarket - for those that care about lap times and would rather spend $ on track fees and consumables. Both - to offer better choice to consumers.
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01-23-2014, 07:10 PM | #554 |
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01-23-2014, 07:15 PM | #555 | |
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01-23-2014, 09:53 PM | #556 | |
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"IMO, the Z/28 derived the greatest improvement in lap time with the 305/30/19 Trofeo fitment at the Ring. Those were working at the Ring. All the other Z/28 improvements didn't 'brake' as sweat. The faster you go (more RWHP) the better the Z/28 aero will work and contribute to lower lap times. The hotter the CF brakes get, the better they work. Lighter weight knows no speed limits. Better suspension is no different. I am not saying all the engineering that went into the Z/28 is not as important as the tire size and choice. I am saying that only the LS7 was breathing hard at the Ring and was run at the limit of capability. You know if a well setup 5th Gen Camaro with over 600 RWHP went to the OPTIMA Invitational it just might beat, Porsche 911s, 850 RWHP ProTouring machines, 5th Gen Race cars... Can you imagine what a Z/28 would do with 600 RWHP" _ |
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01-23-2014, 10:11 PM | #557 |
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Yes the assumptions and truth b(reak)ending are over the top!
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01-24-2014, 07:40 AM | #558 | |
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01-24-2014, 12:04 PM | #559 | |
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Based on the rim weight info I could find, ZL1 5 spoke rims are 11lb lighter then 10 spoke black rims. So it would make the front 5 spoke rim weigh less than 25lb (black ones weight 27). Z/28 rims appear to be in the same range based on posted shipping weight. ZL1 Rears would be a bit heavier as they are wider than fronts. |
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01-24-2014, 12:16 PM | #560 | |
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I am unsure what else to suggest other than running one car on streets and another car on r-comps doesn't make it a fair *track* comparo to any *track enthusiast* except the manufacturer marketing purposes. |
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