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Outlaw525s · 09-08-2014, 08:30 AM

Oaky. SO a little background story for you so that you all understand the full story.. I bought a 2011 Camaro SS 6.2, 6 speed car.. It is a theft car. The thief took the Motor, Tranny, Wheels, Seats, and brakes. SO I then did some researching and purchased a 2013 Camaro SS LS3(6.2) 6 speed Wrecked car, and decided to make one good car out of two. I am a mechanic so my ability's and knowledge is quite well. I knew that for everything to work correctly I had to change the harnesses. So that is what I did. I took EVERY WIRE from the 2013 and placed that into the 2011. I uses all of the 13's computers that I could think of and installed them also into the car. I put the 2013 dash into the 2011 car. so all of my BCM computers are all from the 2013... I am stumped because I drove the 2013 into the shop before I ripped it all apart. Soo, onward.. I did not have any of the computers or wires hooked up or motor in under the hood and I got the dash inserted. I got excited now that the wiring and dash was in (because that was a HUGE bi*ch) so I hooked up the battery to see if all of the instrument lights would come on... wouldn't ya know it, everything lit up and worked perfectly!. then poof the radio went black, and "Vehicle Theft Deterrent" came up on the display... I think that came up because 1. of my over excitedness of getting the gash installed 2. No computers out front were installed 3. No seats installed 4. No seatbelts installed. So I moved forehead and finished building the car. I tried using the snap on scan tools to reset it, and it wont. So i then loaded the car up and took to my Chevy Dealer. Told them the whole story, talked to the tech who was working on it. and after 3 days, they cant figure it out. Called GM and everything. Tech says i have 30 modules that aren't talking.. So that is my situation. How did this happen? where can i take this to have it fixed? How do i fix it? any ideas would be helpful and hopefully someone has come across it! Thanks Guys in advance! CAN YOU HELP ME

BowlingSS · 09-08-2014, 08:50 AM

Can the dealer re-flash the PCM? Good luck. This sounds like a tough one.

Bill

J-Crazy Camaro · 09-08-2014, 08:56 AM

even if you reflashed the PCM its probably not going to do much, it will just upgrade the system it wont reset anything for you. ask a tech if he submitted a SPAT case so it will go to GM engineers. I admire your initiative, but you are in a poo storm of a car problem.

hunter1660 · 09-08-2014, 11:20 AM

Not that it's helps but hopefully the thief ran into the same problem

Iam Broke · 09-08-2014, 06:01 PM

One other problem I can think of is that the 2011 had a power steering pump and the 2013 has electric ps. You put all the electric ps stuff in the '11?

GretchenGotGrowl · 09-08-2014, 06:10 PM

I am not sure about this, but I think part of the VATS system is in the driver's side door.

two_wheel_mayhem · 09-08-2014, 06:28 PM

This may be a big issue as a dealer might refuse to work on your car.

Something's not right, you knew that but all those processors must be married together or they won't work. I think you may have mixed and matched something and the car's electronics have locked you out. Of course it takes a very expensive tool to scan these sytem and reflash things. You mention security could it be something as simple as your ignition switch being for the older car? Maybe you have to have the 2013 switch that matches the 2013 security module.

I'm unsure how sophisticated it is? I know the key doesn't have a chip but I thought there was a system in place that demanded more than just having the key.

MBS · 09-08-2014, 07:14 PM

Man I feel for you , Hope you can get it sorted out .

two_wheel_mayhem · 09-08-2014, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comrando

Hmm. Why does it need to be programmed then?

Someone on the board cut one of the new keys apart to put it in the FOB and said he nicked the chip.

Not sure if there's a chip in the fob or not, just don't see one on the actual key itself. I thought it needed to be programmed so the remote buttons work on your car.

Maybe his keyfob battery is dead, keep it simple.

Dfault · 09-08-2014, 09:20 PM

What if this is actually the thief and wants to know how to end up with a working Camaro without getting traced back to him? D:

EVER THINK OF THAT?!

Outlaw525s · 09-08-2014, 10:28 PM

HAHA No I am not the thief. I am just a guy who bought two cars and is trying to make one good one.. I thought it would be an easier flip... Anyways. they key switch and steering column is all from the 2013. The ONLY module I did not switch was the ABS module (underneath the center council.) I have not heard about the VATS in the driver door, but I will definitely check for that. And yes I switched the EPS all over to the 2011 Chassis.. GM is raising a fuss because they don't like the idea of the project and they didn't do the work, Getting fed up at my local dealer because they aren't even trying anything... Thanks for the help guys! keep the thoughts coming.

09-08-2014, 08:30 AM	#1
Outlaw525s Drives: 2011 Camaro Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: South Dakota Posts: 9	2011 Camaro Not Starting.. Theft Light On!! Oaky. SO a little background story for you so that you all understand the full story.. I bought a 2011 Camaro SS 6.2, 6 speed car.. It is a theft car. The thief took the Motor, Tranny, Wheels, Seats, and brakes. SO I then did some researching and purchased a 2013 Camaro SS LS3(6.2) 6 speed Wrecked car, and decided to make one good car out of two. I am a mechanic so my ability's and knowledge is quite well. I knew that for everything to work correctly I had to change the harnesses. So that is what I did. I took EVERY WIRE from the 2013 and placed that into the 2011. I uses all of the 13's computers that I could think of and installed them also into the car. I put the 2013 dash into the 2011 car. so all of my BCM computers are all from the 2013... I am stumped because I drove the 2013 into the shop before I ripped it all apart. Soo, onward.. I did not have any of the computers or wires hooked up or motor in under the hood and I got the dash inserted. I got excited now that the wiring and dash was in (because that was a HUGE bi*ch) so I hooked up the battery to see if all of the instrument lights would come on... wouldn't ya know it, everything lit up and worked perfectly!. then poof the radio went black, and "Vehicle Theft Deterrent" came up on the display... I think that came up because 1. of my over excitedness of getting the gash installed 2. No computers out front were installed 3. No seats installed 4. No seatbelts installed. So I moved forehead and finished building the car. I tried using the snap on scan tools to reset it, and it wont. So i then loaded the car up and took to my Chevy Dealer. Told them the whole story, talked to the tech who was working on it. and after 3 days, they cant figure it out. Called GM and everything. Tech says i have 30 modules that aren't talking.. So that is my situation. How did this happen? where can i take this to have it fixed? How do i fix it? any ideas would be helpful and hopefully someone has come across it! Thanks Guys in advance! CAN YOU HELP ME

09-08-2014, 08:50 AM	#2
BowlingSS Camaro Owner Since 1987 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS L99 RJT Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 2,185	Can the dealer re-flash the PCM? Good luck. This sounds like a tough one. Bill __________________ 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 RJT CAI, Inc. Cold Air Induction;ADM Scoop Rx Catch Can;Rx Breather;Roto-Fab Washer Container VMax Ported RJT Throttle Body XSPower Headers and XSPower 3" Exhaust System Elite Engineering Tunnel Brace, Gorilla Wheel Lock System; Bear Rotors, Hawk HPS Tinted Windows 35%;EFILive Tune

09-08-2014, 11:20 AM	#4
hunter1660 Drives: 2011ss/rs camaro Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: florida Posts: 1,261	Not that it's helps but hopefully the thief ran into the same problem __________________ . OBX LTH,Rotofab,Magnuson Heartbeat.AEM wideband, HP Tuners

09-08-2014, 06:01 PM	#5
Iam Broke PHAT B33 Drives: 2012 TF3 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Dark of the Moon Posts: 1,460 View My Garage	One other problem I can think of is that the 2011 had a power steering pump and the 2013 has electric ps. You put all the electric ps stuff in the '11? __________________ Another 1 of 371 '12 T3 LS3 M6's built.

09-08-2014, 06:10 PM	#6
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	I am not sure about this, but I think part of the VATS system is in the driver's side door. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

09-08-2014, 08:56 AM	#3
J-Crazy Camaro Drives: Red V8 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Georgia Posts: 325	even if you reflashed the PCM its probably not going to do much, it will just upgrade the system it wont reset anything for you. ask a tech if he submitted a SPAT case so it will go to GM engineers. I admire your initiative, but you are in a poo storm of a car problem.

09-08-2014, 06:28 PM	#7
two_wheel_mayhem Would rather be riding Drives: No car no more Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,750	This may be a big issue as a dealer might refuse to work on your car. Something's not right, you knew that but all those processors must be married together or they won't work. I think you may have mixed and matched something and the car's electronics have locked you out. Of course it takes a very expensive tool to scan these sytem and reflash things. You mention security could it be something as simple as your ignition switch being for the older car? Maybe you have to have the 2013 switch that matches the 2013 security module. I'm unsure how sophisticated it is? I know the key doesn't have a chip but I thought there was a system in place that demanded more than just having the key. __________________ No dog in this fight anymore. 5th Gen owner 2009-2016.

09-08-2014, 07:14 PM	#8
MBS Drives: 2010 rs 2lt Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: wisconsin Posts: 2,497	Man I feel for you , Hope you can get it sorted out .

09-08-2014, 09:20 PM	#10
Dfault Drives: 2014 Camaro SS Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 989	What if this is actually the thief and wants to know how to end up with a working Camaro without getting traced back to him? D: EVER THINK OF THAT?!

09-08-2014, 10:28 PM	#11
Outlaw525s Drives: 2011 Camaro Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: South Dakota Posts: 9	HAHA No I am not the thief. I am just a guy who bought two cars and is trying to make one good one.. I thought it would be an easier flip... Anyways. they key switch and steering column is all from the 2013. The ONLY module I did not switch was the ABS module (underneath the center council.) I have not heard about the VATS in the driver door, but I will definitely check for that. And yes I switched the EPS all over to the 2011 Chassis.. GM is raising a fuss because they don't like the idea of the project and they didn't do the work, Getting fed up at my local dealer because they aren't even trying anything... Thanks for the help guys! keep the thoughts coming.