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Bo White · 08-31-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

front and back?

I believe so.

litle88 · 08-31-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

front and back? If so, I can see it being a worthy mod maybe to maximize the factory intake opening. I am not saying it would do that much but better than stock.

Only if it's been "ported" if not all you have is a shiny Cnc'd TB bud, what the point? if it's still 90mm.

Higgs Boson · 08-31-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

Only if it's been "ported" if not all you have is a shiny Cnc'd TB bud, what the point? if it's still 90mm.

well that's what I am asking. I have only seen pics. The factory throttle body is more open in the front vs at the blade. Which part is 90mm? is the blade 90mm or the front?

Blah blah, I need to look at the stock one more closely and measure what is 90mm and where in the path, etc.

BlaqWhole · 08-31-2012, 12:34 PM

I had the opportunity to keep my stock TB and get a V-Max...because I bought a replacement TB and sent that one as the core. Looking at the two side by side, I could see the differences. I didn't bother to measure any of it because measuring it won't change how the thing performs. I installed it and drove the car immediately. And the gains were consistent with what V-Max claims. I hate to say it, but I did feel an improvement in acceleration. And I hope it wasn't the placebo effect because it felt legitimate. It wasn't a huge rush, but it was consistent with the differences I felt when I did the pulley swap and the Predator tune. I could reinstall my stock TB and see if it feels slower...maybe I will.

litle88 · 08-31-2012, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I had the opportunity to keep my stock TB and get a V-Max...because I bought a replacement TB and sent that one as the core. Looking at the two side by side, I could see the differences. I didn't bother to measure any of it because measuring it won't change how the thing performs. I installed it and drove the car immediately. And the gains were consistent with what V-Max claims. I hate to say it, but I did feel an improvement in acceleration. And I hope it wasn't the placebo effect because it felt legitimate. It wasn't a huge rush, but it was consistent with the differences I felt when I did the pulley swap and the Predator tune. I could reinstall my stock TB and see if it feels slower...maybe I will.

Would you do me the favor of posting some pics with measurements? Front,rear and the blade? Please, others and myself would like to see it first hand. If not I'd understand.

Zeke

BlaqWhole · 08-31-2012, 12:49 PM

You guys are lucky that I'm a loser with no life and nothing important to do. I'll take some pics later. But just to let you know, there is another guy who did this swap and posted pics. I'll try to find the thread and save myself a bit of handiwork...

litle88 · 08-31-2012, 12:52 PM

Awesome!!

Lmao at the reply!! Well were all looses anyway in this damn hobby!

hapisok · 08-31-2012, 12:57 PM

having a bigger opening isn't always the answer. its also about velocity. look at venturi's principle. this is one of those mods where it isn't always about the HP added but about the driving experience...THROTTLE RESPONSE. by porting or reshaping the intake side of the throttle body(and the "exhaust" side of the tb), it increases the velocity of air flow into the throttle body which directly effects throttle response. you could think of it like a velocity stack for the intake manifold.

In a closed system mass can be neither created nor destroyed (law of conservation of mass, simply, what goes in, must come out), and as such, the volumetric flowrate at area A1 must equal the volumetric flowrate at area A2. If the area at location A2 is smaller than A1, the fluid must travel faster to maintain the same volumetric flowrate. This increase in velocity results in a decrease in pressure which follows Bernoulli's equation.

BlaqWhole · 08-31-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

Awesome!!

Lmao at the reply!! Well were all looses anyway in this damn hobby!

Hahaha!! Here is a thread with side by side pics.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...highlight=Vmax

litle88 · 08-31-2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Hahaha!! Here is a thread with side by side pics.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...highlight=Vmax

No measurements there in the linky. We need you sir lol

Bo White · 08-31-2012, 01:58 PM

Stock blade is a touch away from 90mm:

Coyotekiller · 08-31-2012, 07:56 PM

this thread is so off course. At least we are still talkin about intakes...

litle88 · 08-31-2012, 08:02 PM

Sorry Coyote, I just want to get informed sir!

Don't get mad at me.

Bo White · 08-31-2012, 08:10 PM

I thought we were talking about TBs.

08-31-2012, 12:52 PM	#63
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Awesome!! Lmao at the reply!! Well were all looses anyway in this damn hobby! __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

08-31-2012, 12:57 PM	#64
hapisok crazier than a coconut Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,547	having a bigger opening isn't always the answer. its also about velocity. look at venturi's principle. this is one of those mods where it isn't always about the HP added but about the driving experience...THROTTLE RESPONSE. by porting or reshaping the intake side of the throttle body(and the "exhaust" side of the tb), it increases the velocity of air flow into the throttle body which directly effects throttle response. you could think of it like a velocity stack for the intake manifold. In a closed system mass can be neither created nor destroyed (law of conservation of mass, simply, what goes in, must come out), and as such, the volumetric flowrate at area A1 must equal the volumetric flowrate at area A2. If the area at location A2 is smaller than A1, the fluid must travel faster to maintain the same volumetric flowrate. This increase in velocity results in a decrease in pressure which follows Bernoulli's equation. Attached Images __________________ Last edited by hapisok; 08-31-2012 at 01:14 PM.

08-31-2012, 01:58 PM	#67
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,018	Stock blade is a touch away from 90mm: __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

08-31-2012, 08:02 PM	#69
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Sorry Coyote, I just want to get informed sir! Don't get mad at me. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

08-31-2012, 08:10 PM	#70
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,018	I thought we were talking about TBs. __________________ Retired wanna be cylinder head porter 2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X

08-31-2012, 12:34 PM	#60
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	I had the opportunity to keep my stock TB and get a V-Max...because I bought a replacement TB and sent that one as the core. Looking at the two side by side, I could see the differences. I didn't bother to measure any of it because measuring it won't change how the thing performs. I installed it and drove the car immediately. And the gains were consistent with what V-Max claims. I hate to say it, but I did feel an improvement in acceleration. And I hope it wasn't the placebo effect because it felt legitimate. It wasn't a huge rush, but it was consistent with the differences I felt when I did the pulley swap and the Predator tune. I could reinstall my stock TB and see if it feels slower...maybe I will.

08-31-2012, 12:49 PM	#62
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	You guys are lucky that I'm a loser with no life and nothing important to do. I'll take some pics later. But just to let you know, there is another guy who did this swap and posted pics. I'll try to find the thread and save myself a bit of handiwork...

08-31-2012, 07:56 PM	#68
Coyotekiller Account Suspended Drives: 2012 AGM 2SS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Beaufort, NC Posts: 1,383	this thread is so off course. At least we are still talkin about intakes...