Camaro SS manual shipment (not production) hold officially confirmed by GM (UPDATED)

[chevyridinghigh]

Originally Posted by RJT-Maro

thats what im thinking/hoping!!

but we dont know!

My dealer said i was going to be built today or tommorrow so I hope tommmorrow!!

I wonder how the dealers know the build date, or if theyre just guestimating....

[RJT-Maro]

Originally Posted by chevyridinghigh

I wonder how the dealers know the build date, or if theyre just guestimating....

[3GPa]

Man, all I have to say it aeto;ihbtrop;aiehnvo'era!

Ordered 2 1/2 monts ago, still at 1100 and now even more delays.

Time to do some serious thinking
Gus

[camaro5]

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by 3GPa

Time to do some serious thinking
Gus

Please do. Just don't forget to consider that you're witnessing first-hand how the company you'd be buying from is taking every possible precaution against sending you a faulty vehicle from the get-go...

[MikeLangley]

I really, really wanted to buy a 2010 SS to go with my 1998 SS. But the whole ordering/production process was so lengthy that I gave up and bought a 2009 Mustang Bullitt. GM is doing the right thing by holding shipment of the M6's, but it just adds to the frustration of potential buyers.

As for first year production issues, I bought a 1993 Z28 in May of that year, and the car performed flawlessly for 82,000 miles. When they changed to the LS1 in 1998, I bought an SS/M6 in May of that year. It now has 145,000 miles with no engine or transmission problems, ever. With the amount of time that GM had to get the 2010 into production, everything should have right, straight from the factory.

As for foreign cars, I bought a new 280Z in 1975, and it was a total rust bucket. It was a fun car to drive, but I had to have it stripped and repainted twice in six years, thanks to cheap Japanese steel. And, it went through two head gaskets in the same time span. So it can and does happen to all car manufacturers from time to time.

I'm not trashing GM on this, but they did lose a sale to Ford. I may come back to Chevy eventually, but for now I'm back where I started -- in a Mustang (first new car I ever purchased was a 1973 Mach 1/Cleveland 351/4 speed).

[68wanabe]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

A couple of thoughts --

To those who are 'fed up' with GM and "American Products" --

Every manufacturer has issues such as this.

The issue is a supplier problem and it DOES NOT INVOLVE EVERY 6-speed manual transmission.


Once again I'll say this: there IS a downside to sharing information....and this is a perfect example of it.

We could clam up and perhapsyou'd never know about it...but to the Camaro Team, that would not be the right thing to do.

If you think that BMW and Mercedes and other foreign manufacturers don't have similar issues, you're wrong.

WHAT I RECOMMEND: (....from a PERSONAL viewpoint......)


DO NOT do 6,000 RPMS and then DUMP the clutch.

That's a foolish thing to do....regardless of what you are driving.

I'm not saying you have to 'baby' the car -- but don't go out and 'flog hell outta it!"

Meanwhile - we will have more info. as details develop.

Here here..... thanks for reminding eeryone that GM only puts them together. Most issues are caused by suppliers when it comes to things like this.

[camaro5]

I think everyone here is right.

It sucks that this is happening.

GM is sincere about fixing this before delivering more faulty transmissions.

It's outstanding that they listen to us here at Camaro5, and took action accordingly - again. We're like partners.

If my new car went BANG!, when I was smoking my tires, I'd be pissed.

Warranty smarranty, I HATE wasting my time on faulty car service trips.


All we can do now is wait for a root cause, which will then reveal the size and scope of the problem.

If the design is too weak, say it needs more splines or diameter on the output shaft, then all M6's will be involved.

If it is however, as one dealer technician told a member, a heat treating problem; Then we may have a limited number of units affected.

Please try to be patient; and GM, let us know what you determine as the root cause, and solution.

[Arctic Wolf]

Figures, mines apparently been at holding facility in Oshawa for the last month.

I gave my business card to the dealer June of 2008 so that i could be contacted when orders are being taken, i found out Feb of 09 that orders started in October of 2008, unfortunately the old salesguy no longer works for the dealer and never passed on the information.
So i ordered the Camaro in February, it was finally built June 14, i finally got a VIN number, then i get told it was randomly selected to quality control, i knew it was bull and that there was something else.....

The other Camaro in my town arrived 2 weeks ago, but im still waiting.... maybe it will arrive in time to be stored for winter.... LOL

[giod]

Hmmm only the SS Manual, I'm guessing Snapped Output shafts would be the obvious reason....? Anything else would also effect the LS LT's.. And regarding the IMPoRT VS GM.. A new BMW is Gonna run you $60K plus and you cant compare our cars to high end handling in mind cars like BMS and BENZs Etc. Dude what do you want for $38K our cars look awesome, and have killer power, you cant expect them to be problem free, after all they are Chevys, and they are muscle cars, a COMPLETELY Different animal than a BMW... I feel Lucky to have the 2SS for a steal at $38K!

[5thGenAnyone?]

Originally Posted by Arctic Wolf

Figures, mines apparently been at holding facility in Oshawa for the last month.

I gave my business card to the dealer June of 2008 so that i could be contacted when orders are being taken, i found out Feb of 09 that orders started in October of 2008, unfortunately the old salesguy no longer works for the dealer and never passed on the information.
So i ordered the Camaro in February, it was finally built June 14, i finally got a VIN number, then i get told it was randomly selected to quality control, i knew it was bull and that there was something else.....

The other Camaro in my town arrived 2 weeks ago, but im still waiting.... maybe it will arrive in time to be stored for winter.... LOL

I knew something was up when a guy that ordered from the same place I did got his car last week and ours were built on the same day(25th of June) He got a LT, I got a SS. I was very confident I would get it this week for sure but not any more! Could possibly be weeks now. I'll find out tomorrow if it has been shipped yet. Hopefully, but probably not since if it was I would of thought it would be here by now. I wonder what Scott's view of " Very Quikly " is. Mine is one or two days at the most. His could be one or two weeks. This massive amount of problems/issues so far has honestly really suprised me. S*** happens I guess, right? Still love GM and I would love to believe they are doing their best. I guess someone's best just isn't good enough sometimes. The long wait continues.

[TheNetGarage]

My 2SS/RS shipped 07/03/09. Due in any day now. I hope GM puts out a recall fix. I would hate to hear that sound under a load. I will be babying it until a good break in anyway, now I will baby it until the recall comes out. AT least I can test fit all the vinyl designs I created, so I am glad the car shipped.

Freakin' Tremec. And these trannies are in many cars, including Mustang, Challenger, Corvette, Mustang.

Thanks GM for pulling out all stops and finding the fault and making them own up. The factory for the tranny is probably up to max out put to keep up with the demand..........they need to slow down and test their product.

[JeffInDFW]

Over at GMInsideNews this is being discussed. Some people there pointed to threads showing that this is also happening to the Tremec 6060 in the Challenger and the GT500s. I went to their forums to confirm, and you can read about the same thing happening to them there. It is supposedly an issue from the supplier (Tremec) with a specific BATCH of transmissions.

Horriffic luck for the Camaro program. How can it be that the T56 and now 6060 have been absolutely BULLET PROOF for almost 2 decades now, and right when GM introduces our new Camaro, a bad batch of trannys gets produced?!?! I own a Viper also, and have not heard of this over there. BUT, the Viper has been out of production for a while now, and they were building so few of them right there at the end, they may not have received any of the bad trannies. Anyone have any insight into the Corvette world to see if THEY are getting bit with this???

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by Zedder

Well here is my 2 cents...GM is doing the right thing by holding the cars; yes, I hold them responsible for any of their supplier problems (I'm in manufacturing and would expect my head to be handed to me if I tried to tell a customer that is wasn't my problem, it was my supplier's problem). As for never doing 6K launches...isn't this a performance car? I've done heavy launches from time-to-time in my 1967 Z-28's...and now 42 years of technology later the car can't handle it? I'm sorry, that's just not acceptable to me. I was at the dealer on Saturday finalizing my factory order...I think I'll wait a few months now to see how this car stands up...

Zedder -- My comments were meant for 'right now' -- we're working thru the issue - it does not involve all M6 transmissions -- we believe it's a small amount.

Some were concerned about being 'stranded' - -and thus my comments.

Of COURSE you should be able to do it....that said, is it wise to abuse a car or truck? I don't think so.