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Mutant Racer · 06-26-2013, 12:16 PM

Your friendly neighborhood Mutant Racer has some money coming my way and if you were me would you 1LE your 2SS for the track?

Yes?

No?

Hellafreakinyeah!

No way dummy the 1LE is a joke!

Your thoughts?

mikeyg36 · 06-26-2013, 12:38 PM

I'd get the 1LE gears and possibly rims and tires. The suspension parts would be better if you went aftermarket.

SPCBA · 06-26-2013, 12:40 PM

the 1LE is hands down the best bang for your buck car out there.

there are improvements in the aftermarket. the rear end is nice but the rest can be beat quite easily in catalogs like pfadt or pedders.

Dynamite · 06-26-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyg36

I'd get the 1LE gears and possibly rims and tires. The suspension parts would be better if you went aftermarket.

Yep. Just get the 3.91 gears and aftermarket everything else.

slick rick · 06-26-2013, 12:46 PM

Has GMPP released the 1LE track pack yet?

Mutant Racer · 06-26-2013, 01:09 PM

Ok cool fellas, I will keep things simple and go mostly aftermarket.

I was thinking gears, ZL1 wheels, and do the truss rod for the shits and giggles.

Should I also go aftermarket for brake lines?

My Camaro will definitely be tracked for road courses.

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Originally Posted by slick rick

Has GMPP released the 1LE track pack yet?

That's what the guy from the dealership told me. Can't say for sure if that is 100% accurate though.

Mikes SS · 06-26-2013, 01:18 PM

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that the transmission in the 1LE has different ratios to counter that 3.91 gear that you would be so quick to put in..basically 1st gear would be useless with the current 2SS ratios and 6th would be like 5th.

Mutant Racer · 06-26-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikes SS

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that the transmission in the 1LE has different ratios to counter that 3.91 gear that you would be so quick to put in..basically 1st gear would be useless with the current 2SS ratios and 6th would be like 5th.

I know people that installed the Vette ZR1 clutch to go with the 3.91 gears. I saw one on the dyno that when it was punched in 4th the power was total shock and awe.

I have to do plenty of homework on this stuff but my guy also mentioned there is different short throw on the 1LE's from the people who have the Hurst factory short throw.

mikeyg36 · 06-26-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikes SS

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that the transmission in the 1LE has different ratios to counter that 3.91 gear that you would be so quick to put in..basically 1st gear would be useless with the current 2SS ratios and 6th would be like 5th.

The ratios are different but it won't make 1st useless. On an auto it would, but not a manual.

mikeyg36 · 06-26-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutant Racer

I know people that installed the Vette ZR1 clutch to go with the 3.91 gears. I saw one on the dyno that when it was punched in 4th the power was total shock and awe.

I have to do plenty of homework on this stuff but my guy also mentioned there is different short throw on the 1LE's from the people who have the Hurst factory short throw.

Different name, same throw reduction.

PalmerGA · 06-26-2013, 01:30 PM

If I wanted a 1LE... I would get a 1LE.
If I wanted a ZL1... I would get a ZL1.
If I wanted a Vette... I would get a Vette.

Follow my thinking here?

Ivan @ Southwest Speed · 06-26-2013, 01:34 PM

Why would you retro it when you've already paid for the upgrades?

I mean, all it has that you would really want is the bang for the buck but you've already spent it so..lol Kinda moot at this point.

I'd say the Brakes, Wheels, and Gears would be about the most you'd want out of it.

Or just go trade "down" to one and make out better.

Good luck!
Ivan @ Southwest Speed

caverman · 06-26-2013, 01:34 PM

You can see most of my mods in my sig and have a lot of the what the 1LE has in aftermarket. I still have OEM wheels which is my biggest weak point now but I just think they are better looking over the 1LE or ZL1 wheels.

I've had 3.91 gears for a good year or so now. I can tell you by no means does it render a M6 useless. Quite the opposite. It runs WAY better from street light to street light. Does it take away some of your top end.....yes a little....but not like you would think. At 55mph I lost 200 RPM. Its still very drivable on the highway and actually around town I now use 6th gear a lot more than I used to. The 3.91 gears are awesome in an M6 and I would never go back to 3.45.

caverman · 06-26-2013, 01:36 PM

BTW: as for brakes, yes, change out to stainless lines and some good DOT 4 fluid and you'll be good to go.

Get a clutch fluid separator as well.

06-26-2013, 12:16 PM	#1
Mutant Racer Drives: 2015 2LT Torch Red C7 Stingray Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,807 View My Garage	Would you retro package your 2SS to a 1LE? Your friendly neighborhood Mutant Racer has some money coming my way and if you were me would you 1LE your 2SS for the track? Yes? No? Hellafreakinyeah! No way dummy the 1LE is a joke! Your thoughts?

06-26-2013, 12:40 PM	#3
SPCBA Drives: pleather and Chiclets Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: a line somwhere Posts: 4,206 View My Garage	the 1LE is hands down the best bang for your buck car out there. there are improvements in the aftermarket. the rear end is nice but the rest can be beat quite easily in catalogs like pfadt or pedders. __________________ the power by www.cunningham-motorsports.com the brakes by www.RacingBrake.com

06-26-2013, 12:46 PM	#5
slick rick SoCal Mayhem Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Foothill Ranch, CA Posts: 5,488 View My Garage	Has GMPP released the 1LE track pack yet? __________________

06-26-2013, 01:30 PM	#11
PalmerGA Drives: 2013 SIM 1SS/RS L99 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Southwest GA Posts: 8,755 View My Garage	If I wanted a 1LE... I would get a 1LE. If I wanted a ZL1... I would get a ZL1. If I wanted a Vette... I would get a Vette. Follow my thinking here? __________________ 2013 1SS/RS Coupe L99, Stainless Power Works LT Headers, SCT X4 Custom Tune from RDP, CAI Inc. Air Intake w/ Apex Scoop, VMAX CNC Ported Throttle Body, Solo Axle-Back Exhaust w/ J-pipes, Apex Catch Can, Husky Splash Guards, Heritage Grille, 3D Carbon Rear Spoiler, Oracle Chrome Turn Signal Bulbs, GM Reverse Light Trim Billets, Gorilla Black Locking Lugs, Emblem Pros Retro SS Badges/Custom Retro SS Kickplates/Under-hood Bowtie, 35% window Tint, Nitto Motivo Tires (6-8-18)

06-26-2013, 01:34 PM	#13
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	You can see most of my mods in my sig and have a lot of the what the 1LE has in aftermarket. I still have OEM wheels which is my biggest weak point now but I just think they are better looking over the 1LE or ZL1 wheels. I've had 3.91 gears for a good year or so now. I can tell you by no means does it render a M6 useless. Quite the opposite. It runs WAY better from street light to street light. Does it take away some of your top end.....yes a little....but not like you would think. At 55mph I lost 200 RPM. Its still very drivable on the highway and actually around town I now use 6th gear a lot more than I used to. The 3.91 gears are awesome in an M6 and I would never go back to 3.45. __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

06-26-2013, 12:38 PM	#2
mikeyg36 Drives: 2015 Z/28 #533 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NY Posts: 6,731	I'd get the 1LE gears and possibly rims and tires. The suspension parts would be better if you went aftermarket.

06-26-2013, 01:18 PM	#7
Mikes SS Drives: '10 CGM 2SS/RS 6M Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Central Florida Posts: 1,032 View My Garage	I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that the transmission in the 1LE has different ratios to counter that 3.91 gear that you would be so quick to put in..basically 1st gear would be useless with the current 2SS ratios and 6th would be like 5th.

06-26-2013, 01:34 PM	#12
Ivan @ Southwest Speed Drives: '15 Z06, '01 NBM SS, '97 SS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Rio Rancho, NM Posts: 12,170	Why would you retro it when you've already paid for the upgrades? I mean, all it has that you would really want is the bang for the buck but you've already spent it so..lol Kinda moot at this point. I'd say the Brakes, Wheels, and Gears would be about the most you'd want out of it. Or just go trade "down" to one and make out better. Good luck! Ivan @ Southwest Speed

06-26-2013, 01:36 PM	#14
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	BTW: as for brakes, yes, change out to stainless lines and some good DOT 4 fluid and you'll be good to go. Get a clutch fluid separator as well. __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal