Out with Energy Suspension – In with Pedders

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by caverman

If you're asking me I'm good with you doing whatever you want with it.

Yes sir I am asking if I can repost it under your user name. It is OK with you?

BTw, have you had a chance to autocross your Camaro since the install?

[caverman]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Yes sir I am asking if I can repost it under your user name. It is OK with you?

BTw, have you had a chance to autocross your Camaro since the install?

Sure...you can post it using my username.

Haven't had a chance to AutoX or Dragrace since adding them. The heat wave we've been having is keeping me from the track. 107 degrees in the shade today.

A month or so ago my dad and brother took our race car out to the drag strip and the track temp was reading right around 135 degrees. Just to hot for me right now.

Hopefully by the end of Sept or in Oct it will be cool enough to go out and report back.......which I will do once I've made it to the track.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by caverman

Sure...you can post it using my username.

Haven't had a chance to AutoX or Dragrace since adding them. The heat wave we've been having is keeping me from the track. 107 degrees in the shade today.

A month or so ago my dad and brother took our race car out to the drag strip and the track temp was reading right around 135 degrees. Just to hot for me right now.

Hopefully by the end of Sept or in Oct it will be cool enough to go out and report back.......which I will do once I've made it to the track.

I feel your pain with the heat. The other day it was only 99 and the local weather said we were in a cool wave

Take a look at this and let me know if anything should be changed. http://forums.peddersusa.com/showthr...=6833#post6833

[caverman]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

I feel your pain with the heat. The other day it was only 99 and the local weather said we were in a cool wave

Take a look at this and let me know if anything should be changed. http://forums.peddersusa.com/showthr...=6833#post6833

looks good to me.

Thanks for all your help.

[PQ]

135 degrees.

Damn. I'd tear my whole car up in that with my luck.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by caverman

looks good to me.

Thanks for all your help.

Thank you for a great detailed post.

[lscamaro]

Hey caverman, did you ever go to the track to test these out?

[caverman]

Originally Posted by lscamaro

Hey caverman, did you ever go to the track to test these out?

Yes, in a way. By the time I got to the drag strip I had also added some coilovers. So, I didn't get to test just this upgrade by itself.

However, the first time out I had the Pedders inserts, Hotchkis brace, and Coilovers. I didn't really increase my time at all. I ended up getting some answers about my settings on my coilovers at the drag strip. I also removed the Hotchkis brace. Went back to the track with different coilover settings and I got .02 tenths faster at the track.

I still think Pedders inserts are a much better choice that what I had and I recommend them all the time. They cost a little more than the other brands but are worth it.

[JusticePete]

I love this thread!

[Nightmare2012]

Is pedders or bmr better just wondering before.i pull the trigger!

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

Is pedders or bmr better just wondering before.i pull the trigger!

I can't speak of BMR because I have no experience with them.

But PEDDERS comes with the most support I've EVER seen with ANY product I have ever bought plus I've THRASHED on my car and all is still good.

Buy PEDDERS and be done with it.

Plus, the owner of PEDDERS USA is one of our most active members and regular joe.


EDIT, ok.... regular Pete. hahaha

[caverman]

Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

Is pedders or bmr better just wondering before.i pull the trigger!

As I mention at the begining of the thread, based on design alone Pedders is worth the extra money. I know BMR is cheaper but install is not nearly as easy.

I don't have specific experience with BMR bushings but there are rummors (and take it as that) that Energy Suspension makes the inserts for BMR. The lube that comes with the BMR bushings even says Energy Suspension on it.

What I do have is experience with both Energy and Pedders inserts. Lets not even talk about install but just look at the firmness of the poly. Look at the pictures I posted in this thread. You can see undeniable difference between the firmess of Pedders compared to the weakness of the Energy. That should make you spend the extra money for Pedders right there.

I have no vested intrest in Pedders. I'm just passing along my personal experience. I have a mixture of almost every suspsension vendor on here. I use differnent vendors based on price and performance. I have an LSR front sway bar, Pedders ZL1 rear swaybar, Pedders cradle inserts, Whiteline rearend bushings and Radius Rod bushings, Spohn Trailing Arms, BMR Toe Rods, BC Coilovers, and Pfadt Trailing Arm bushings (and had Energy Suspension for about 2 weeks).......a little something from everyone. It just worked out that way.

[caverman]

Since this thread has been dug up again I need to post a picture of the 2 hammer trick to get the cradle washer hats off. I thought I had posted this earlier in the thread but I guess I didn't.

A good 3 or 4 blows of the hammer and the washers come right off. Just keep an eye out one where they go flying to when the pop off.

Also the torque specs on the bolts are something like 120 ft lbs. That's almost impossible to get with a hand held torque wrench. Instead just clean off the bolts, add some blue locktite, and torque to 80 or 85 ft lbs.

[PQ]

I started with Pfadt and ended up replacing it all with Pedders.

Not that the Pfadt parts weren't doing the job but I upgraded.