09-08-2015, 08:28 PM | #1 |
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Cam Install in Phoenix
Anyone have any recommendations on where to go for a cam install? I'm about to give in and buy a night fury camshaft package from lethal racing but I'm not sure where to go and on average how much it is for install? Planning to purchase a c5r timing chain and melling oil pump as well. Any recommendations would be awesome thanks guys.
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09-08-2015, 09:15 PM | #2 |
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You should check out the Southwest section, that's where most the Arizona stuff is going on.
It seems like the top 3 LS shops in Phoenix are J&R Performance, Top Gear and CPR. I had J&R do mine and I am extremely happy with the work. I talked to all 3 shops and quite a few Camaro owners and it seemed like J&R does most the 5th Gens. All 3 shops have good reps, J&R is the priciest but I noticed there attention to detail while I was talking to them on items the other shops didn't bring up. They also tune in house instead of subletting it out. |
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I shipped my car to CPR (Cordes Performance Racing) for turbos and a cam in 2013. I'd recommend them. Joe (owner) is very enthusiastic and has a passion for cars.
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09-08-2015, 09:23 PM | #4 |
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I had mine installed at CPR by joe. But like recommend before J&R and Top Gear are good shops from what I hear as well. I was happy with the work, and will probably go back later to get a N2O kit installed
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09-08-2015, 09:31 PM | #5 |
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CPR. Honestly I would just go with a full package from CPR. Their defibrillator cam sounds mean and outperforms the lethal cam. They have everything in stock, and great prices. Sean@Top Gear is good too. The other shop never seen or heard anything good come out of the, but no personal experience.
Hell, I installed a few cams for camaro owners in Utah for a 12 pack of beer, but down here they just aren't as nice.
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09-08-2015, 10:38 PM | #7 |
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You can do a custom cam that would make great power, sound good, and be turbo friendly later. Won't cost anymore, in fact maybe cheaper.
I haven't seen any local lethal cam cars come close to those numbers out here. I think Joes Defib cams does ~480rwhp ish and drives great. Either way, you want to make sure Nic D tunes it, as he is the best local tuner around (that tunes for others) and CPR and Sean@Top Gear both use him.
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09-08-2015, 10:56 PM | #9 |
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Long tubes takes a few hours. Super easy. If my car wasn't on the lift I would say bring it by this weekend and I would do it for lunch.
Have Joe order a custom defib with a bit narrower LSA to make it more turbo friendly. Do a 115 or 116 instead of 112-113. Will drive nice and be turbo happy later. Any of them will make 1000+ with twins anyways. Hell a stock cam has done 1000+ with twins.
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Btw I appreciate all this, I'm not highly educated on this yet as I just started getting more seriously into these cars. All of this information is very well appreciated thank you. |
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Also, Lethal Racing is going through some massive issues right now so Id look into GPI SS3 cam or a custom cam.
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Nic D doesn't sabotage tunes. Numbers out here just aren't the same. That package has been refined to what works on cars here. When it first came out it was doing lower numbers but Joe/Nic kept tweaking and tuning and trying new things until it started making 460+ consistently. That is a huge advantage compared to some other "out of state cams".
No you wouldn't be stuck with turbos, but you would want to be. No reason to look at a centri IMO. Honestly just have Joe spec you a custom cam through Pat G/Ed C/BTR that fits your goals. If you really want to go FI later no reason to do a big crazy cam that will have drivibility issues. My cam is tiny, smaller than most people put in ls3 and I have no issues making over 1200rwhp. With turbos a basic ls7/ls9 cam has made 1200+ with ease. Overcamming a car is one of the biggest regrets I see/hear. People don't understand how crappy a car can drive, or the gas mileage hit. They just want cool sound/power and then 6 months later are selling the car or pulling the cam out. Just be careful with what you want.
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I am a very good judge of people and I do not think Nic D would sabotage a tune , he impressed me as a good honest guy. IMHO , go with CPR and have Nic D tune it. Arizona ( the Valley ) is a whole lot harder to tune for . The heat ,Altitude ,and 91 octane weasel piss gas kills performance . Both Joe and Nic D will get you the best result . I was very impressed with the cars CPR has turned out. Nic D did the tune on my Bolton 1LE and i was happy with the result .
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Thank's for all the kind word's guys!!! Nic for sure doesn't sabatoge a tune, it makes what it makes plain and simple. in the summer all the defib guy's we have done w/ good bolt on's ie no k&n cold air a real one lol. Hit right at 460 rwhp in the winter closer to 470. I have had one guy crack the 500 rwhp mark w/ the cam and he did ai ported oem heads, our ported fast 102,102 combo. Best w/ a stock manifold we have had was 492 rwhp. his manifold and tb was ported by us though.
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