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Old 09-16-2014, 05:10 PM   #2376
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Or run stock to stock. Or run with other 40k cars like Subarus.
Would you like to sell your ZL1? I'm interested any performance mods at all?
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:14 PM   #2377
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Or run stock to stock. Or run with other 40k cars like Subarus.
The wrx sti starts at $35k fwiw (the sti limited with the 2.5T $38k)
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:24 PM   #2378
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Would you like to sell your ZL1? I'm interested any performance mods at all?
Not yet on sale. Have to wait for a HC to crush me. :(
I'm just running a roto fab.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:26 PM   #2379
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Regardless of your opinion on Hellcats I gotta say,

This thread is comedy.
Won't be comedy when HCs start embarrassing people.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:29 PM   #2380
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With a intake, pulley and a tune it could be a pretty long wait. Of course if its not modded
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:35 PM   #2381
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With a intake, pulley and a tune it could be a pretty long wait. Of course if its not modded

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Dodge Challenger Hellcat Good for 825hp, Not Good for Emissions

- See more at: http://www.torquenews.com/106/dodge-....ZjwvowDf.dpuf

This may surprise you !
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:50 PM   #2382
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I think people forget what the Hellcat is..and what it isnt.

It is the closest modern equal to a classic muscle car

What it isn't is a sports car.

More Grand Tourer vs Grand Sport
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:34 PM   #2383
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Won't be comedy when HCs start embarrassing people.
Relax Rambo, it wasn't a knock on the Hellcat.
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Old 09-16-2014, 07:54 PM   #2384
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Dodge Challenger Hellcat Good for 825hp, Not Good for Emissions

- See more at: http://www.torquenews.com/106/dodge-....ZjwvowDf.dpuf

This may surprise you !
That is surprising. If they delayed orders because tweaks were needed in the 707 HP mode to meet emissions, what does that mean for the earlier 10.8 and 11.2 sec 1/4 mile claims? All this press and they are still screwing around with the tune?
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Old 09-16-2014, 08:01 PM   #2385
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Relax Rambo, it wasn't a knock on the Hellcat.
Oh. Cool.
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:37 PM   #2386
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John Force still drag races.
Don't think your going to run in to John on the street , he drag races for the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ at the track. We are talking about street cars that are going to be good at everything.
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Old 09-17-2014, 07:28 PM   #2387
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I think that 11.7 @125 is the closest representation that we are going to see for right now of what the hellcat will do on the streets since that was a totally unprepared surface.

however that trap speed of 125 is very scary, and when you get wide drag tires on the back of it it's going to be extremely hard to catch
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Old 09-18-2014, 08:30 AM   #2388
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That is surprising. If they delayed orders because tweaks were needed in the 707 HP mode to meet emissions, what does that mean for the earlier 10.8 and 11.2 sec 1/4 mile claims? All this press and they are still screwing around with the tune?
The way I undestand it is that initial testing with the new engine resulted in 800+ hp but the car wouldn't meet emission standards, they then dialed it back to 707 in order to meet the standards. Probably reduced boost via pulley size.
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Old 09-18-2014, 12:29 PM   #2389
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The way I undestand it is that initial testing with the new engine resulted in 800+ hp but the car wouldn't meet emission standards, they then dialed it back to 707 in order to meet the standards. Probably reduced boost via pulley size.
Maybe this is BS as I haven't seen it reported anywhere else but this article did point at the red key mode pretty specifically.

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2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat isn’t all good news... the company is having some “extreme issues” when trying to meet some emission requirements while set to the 700+ horsepower mode...

...While it isn’t hard to see a 707+ horsepower engine failing to meet emission requirements, this comes as a surprise to me as the company certainly had these regulations in mind during the developmental stages of the 2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat....

....definitely could have been the cause for the delay in Hellcat orders from when they were first rumored to begin to when they actually began.
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Old 09-18-2014, 05:19 PM   #2390
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I'm sure GM pushed the LSA past 580 as well and we've seen 700rwhp being made reliably, so the 825 number means little to me. But if the, "the company is having some “extreme issues” when trying to meet some emission requirements while set to the 700+ horsepower mode" comment is indeed true, this will be a huge slap in the face to Dodge.
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Old 09-26-2014, 10:17 PM   #2391
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Won't be comedy when HCs start embarrassing people.
I feel sorry for you....but Hey guys with little stuff have to have something to keep that Ego charged right....sad sad.
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Old 09-27-2014, 09:39 AM   #2392
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Old 09-27-2014, 02:28 PM   #2393
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Old 09-27-2014, 02:47 PM   #2394
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Old 09-27-2014, 08:11 PM   #2395
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Old 09-28-2014, 02:36 AM   #2396
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Old 09-28-2014, 10:16 AM   #2397
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Old 09-29-2014, 02:01 PM   #2398
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I spent the morning with Chrysler engineers at our track and a '15 SRT 392. A Hellcat scheduled to be here puked its power steering. The numbers they told me they achieved with the Hellcat Charger are really going to surprise people.

I can tell you this much, driving the SRT 392 on a road course was actually very fun. Yes it is heavy, but it never feels like it works against you.The handling is very neutral, and pushes slightly on entry, but can be nudged to oversteer with lift throttle or a brake squeeze at the right time. Throttle induced oversteer is very easy to control and modulate as I was able to hold a long slide through consecutive right-left-right turns.

I was impressed with the brakes as well. 15.4" two piece rotors on front with 6 piston calipers and 4 pots out back. The prototype I drove did not even have the adjustable suspension, just a slightly softer setup than the stiffest setting. The auto trans will upshift and downshift smartly and quickly.

To quote "This is the car no one asked for, but we did it anyway!"
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So it appears the Hellcat can take a few turns. Impressive! I'm just curious at the skill level of the CTS-V owner. Will definitely be interesting once Randy Pobst gets his hands on the Hellcat!

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After spending the day with the engineers on this program it is very apparent they know the limitations of the platform they have. The Z/28 was mentioned, but only in the context of knowing they could not do that type of car. As a matter of fact, they said at a early planning meeting for the Hellcat, someone said to build the baddest track car possible, but it was quickly shot down.

They did a nice job. My questions regarding the 'Cuda were met with pained looks. When I said to them, "That was a Plymouth name plate, I know, but just the same enthusiasts would love to see it back". They agreed, its a Plymouth name, and Plymouth no longer exists.
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